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Author Topic: RLPO - Durham Concerto etc  (Read 231 times)
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« on: 00:16:27, 06-04-2008 »

Just back from Cultureville Phil where Jon Lord’s Durham Concerto – subject of several largely favourable comments from IRF a while ago – was top of the bill.  I must say I enjoyed the piece enormously despite several reservations.  Chief among these was that it was rather syrupy in places – fine if you can go with the flow but an old cynic like me can’t help suspecting I’m being conned.  I also felt that Lord had difficulty finding his own voice as a composer.  At times he seemed to want to be Vaughan Williams or Sibelius, at others Bernstein; needless to say he couldn’t be any of those masters, yet he seldom convinced me we were listening to an original composer called Lord.  But I’m quibbling; I thoroughly enjoyed it, as did my young nephew.

Whatever quibbles I might have had about Mr Lord’s work, it was, in my opinion, infinitely superior to the Michael Nyman work receiving its UK premiere on the same programme.  Like many of MN’s works, ‘gdm for marimba and orchestra’ was lamentably short of interesting material.  There was nothing actually unpleasant about it, but why anyone would score this stuff for such huge forces is beyond me.  In fact the piece put me in mind of the late Neil Ardley’s ‘Kaleidoscope of Rainbows’ but the latter uses about a dozen musicians plus a synthesizer to good effect whereas Nyman uses the best part of a symphony orchestra and makes a 20 minute piece seem interminable.

The surprise on the programme and, for me, the highlight, was James MacMillan’s 2nd Piano Concerto.  The piece’s roots in a ballet score are pretty obvious and if I wanted to quibble I could ask whether or not it actually works as a concerto; but I couldn’t answer the question as my theoretical knowledge is non-existent – and the piece worked to the extent that it was interesting and exciting.  It was certainly out of the ordinary.  In all my concert-going history I can’t remember seeing the soloist in a piano concerto turn away from the keyboard to play a drum!  The concerto was a delightful mixture of folk-tinged melodies and gripping rhythm.  I’d certainly book a concert on the strength of this piece in future.
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« Reply #1 on: 03:28:40, 06-04-2008 »

Very interesting review,Thanks.  I remember when Macmillan's breakthrough score 'Veni, Veni Emmanuel' got a pasting for being so kaleidoscopic technically, as if it were all sound and fury-but it gripped audiences. I'm looking forward to his latest choral thing with the LS0 on April 27th,can't remember the title. vvm, as a percussion concerto so  as a paradigm, would ironically seem to embody what can happen when composers run out of steam-all the best and whistles thrown at a project that in the end sounds like a one-off rather than something organic. Is that the problem with the Lord (Kind of odd talking about a piece by'the Lord' first done in a Cathedral innit?) and Nyman (whose trombone concerto I thought was pretty good-ropey concept but it got it on the page). How well was the show attened I wonder? It'd have been really risky programming in London unless it was the Sinfonietta with, as you say, smaller forces.
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« Reply #2 on: 12:47:20, 06-04-2008 »

Is that the problem with the Lord (Kind of odd talking about a piece by'the Lord' first done in a Cathedral innit?) and Nyman (whose trombone concerto I thought was pretty good-ropey concept but it got it on the page).

I can't really analyse the problems with either piece, I'm afraid, because I don't have the technical knowledge. 

If there was a problem with the Lord it's that it could be seen as derivative; but, if he did his own orchestration, it was pretty well executed.  I'm also not at all sure the Northumbrian Pipes sit well in front of a large orchestra; and ironically the Hammond Organ (soloist J Lord) sounded slightly incongruous, too, though it might grow on me.  Oh, and throwing in 'Gaudeamus Igitur' might have made some people wonder when the kitchen sink was coming.  Reading the above you wouldn't believe that I found the piece most enjoyable overall; but I did!

If I had to summarise the problem with the Nyman in three words they would be: dull, dull, dull.  A few very short melodies repeated ad nauseam with very little in the way of variation except increase/decrease in volume.  To this end he used a large orchestra: minus the conventional percussion section but with a marimba.

How well was the show attened I wonder? It'd have been really risky programming in London unless it was the Sinfonietta with, as you say, smaller forces.

I bought my ticket out of curiosity to hear the Durham Concerto and it was some time later that it struck me all the pieces were by living composers.  I was upstairs and didn't really pop my head over the parapet to see if the stalls was full.  There were plenty of spare seats near me but the same was true of Ian Bostridge's recent concert and the extremely rare chance to hear saxophone legend Wayne Shorter.  The applause was rapturous, especially for Joanna MacGregor's latin-flavoured encore and for the DC itself which got half the audience on their feet for an ovation.
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« Reply #3 on: 14:36:27, 06-04-2008 »

Cheers for your observations. I'd have liked to hear J Mc G in the Mac, had wondered what she was up to. Ditto Wayne Shorter, missed him in London.
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« Reply #4 on: 17:25:13, 06-04-2008 »

Thank you for your thoughts, HtoHe. I can't tell if I'm objective about a man whose rock music I've idolized for decades, so it's good to read an unbiased (and more knowledgeable) opinion. I find myself agreeing with everyword you wrote, even:

I also felt that Lord had difficulty finding his own voice as a composer.  At times he seemed to want to be Vaughan Williams or Sibelius, at others Bernstein; needless to say he couldn’t be any of those masters, yet he seldom convinced me we were listening to an original composer called Lord.

I understand exactly what you mean but I don't find it a negative point. To me the synthesis of those obvious influences is Lord's "voice". I can see the same in his writing for rock groups. Was any of it new? No, Deep Purple freely took apart the music that influenced them (rock'n'roll, blues, jazz, even classical) and put the pieces back together into something new. Isn't that how creativity works?

if he did his own orchestration

I'm led to believe (and have no reason to doubt) that he does his own orchestration. His first (and most famous) major orchestral work was written in 1969, when he was a virtually unknown jobbing musican who certainly couldn't afford to hire an orchestrator, though he freely admits that the piece's conductor, Malcolm Arnold, gave him guidance (he has described sitting up all night with books on orchestration, trying to learn what instruemnts could and couldn't do). Unlike the McCartneys of the world, Lord was classically trained since the age of six, though he's a self-taught composer.


I have a review of the concert on my web site: http://www.heroes.force9.co.uk/music/lord-2008.html

But in case you don't want to read through a whole page of sycophantic gushing, here's an extract which relates to the discussion of the half-empty hall:

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The concert itself was nowhere near a sell-out. Half the circle was empty and I could see scattered empty seats in the stalls. Listening to people talk, I gathered that half the audience were Deep Purple fans and the other half were Classic FM listeners (CFM has been heavily plugging the Durham Concerto since its release). With that audience, I think the programme was badly thought out. Nobody that I overheard was there to hear the Nyman or MacMillan pieces. So the people who have been Jon Lord fans for years would have gone anyway, no matter what else was on the programme, and the casual Classic FM punters probably stayed at home because there was no Lark Ascending or Hovis Advert Symphony, or anything else they knew.


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« Reply #5 on: 21:05:52, 06-04-2008 »

I liked your review very much, IRF.  Slightly different perspective but still very obvious we were at the same concert - which isn't always the impression I get from 'professional' reviews!  I wouldn't assume my knowledge is greater than yours just because I lean more towards classical music.  I actually don't have any technical knowledge at all; I just use my ears and I'm sure yours are at least as good!  I agree wholeheartedly with you about live music.  It might not always be perfect; it might even make some very ordinary stuff sound great; but if you never go to live events you're missing something absolutely essential. 

I couldn't hang around to get a signed CD.  I had to deliver my nephew back to his parents and get home myself by public transport (on Grand National Day!).  I've never got anything signed by a rock/pop performer so I can't comment; but I've always found classical artists have a very good attitude in this respect - just as you describe with JL. 

How did you find out the name of the encore, btw.  I asked one of the ushers but she didn't seem to know how to find out.  It was fizzy little piece, wasn't it?
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« Reply #6 on: 21:50:37, 06-04-2008 »

How did you find out the name of the encore, btw.  I asked one of the ushers but she didn't seem to know how to find out.  It was fizzy little piece, wasn't it?

I'm an expert on Piazzolla  Tongue



But seriously, they had a noticed pinned up in the bar where JL was signing CDs at the end of the show. I was wondering myself how to find out -- I thought I might have to give some incredibly vague description on the forum and get people to make guesses Wink


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