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Rob_G
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« on: 20:42:34, 18-08-2008 »
I will be there for this one  Smiley , one of my favourite conductors and my first time at the Concertgebouw! Should be great  Cool

Mendelssohn Scottish and Nielsen Sinfonia Espansiva
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« Reply #1 on: 20:45:05, 18-08-2008 »
Ah, my favourite Nielsen symphony. I'm beginning to get the impression that Nielsen is becoming more popular in this country. They used to dismiss him as "not original enough". Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: 21:06:08, 18-08-2008 »
Well as you probably know Nielsen's 5 symphony was described by the British musicologist Deryck Cooke as:

"The greatest twentieth-century Symphony".

Well looking forward to my 1st time in dutchland  Cool
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« Reply #3 on: 22:01:00, 18-08-2008 »
I didn't know that Cooke was a Nielsen admirer. I don't know many Wagnerians who also like Nielsen (I'm not a Wagnerian Wink ).

Robert Simpson was a great admirer of Carl Nielsen. He had a Dutch mother.
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« Reply #4 on: 22:09:45, 18-08-2008 »
Yes dim_perks, you've probably seen RS's book on the composer:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Carl-Nielsen-Symphonist-Crescendo-book/dp/0900707968/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219093690&sr=1-2

It's pretty good although I read it years ago.
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« Reply #5 on: 22:20:25, 18-08-2008 »
Sorry got your name wrong, should read pim_derks

apologies  Embarrassed
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« Reply #6 on: 23:59:32, 18-08-2008 »
Quote from: Rob_G on 22:09:45, 18-08-2008
Yes dim_perks, you've probably seen RS's book on the composer:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Carl-Nielsen-Symphonist-Crescendo-book/dp/0900707968/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219093690&sr=1-2

It's pretty good although I read it years ago.

I remember reading somewhere that Simpson was puzzled by Nielsens's Sixth Symphony. I always found that one the most enigmatic of the cycle.

Quote from: Rob_G on 22:20:25, 18-08-2008
Sorry got your name wrong, should read pim_derks

apologies  Embarrassed

Don't worry, Rob:

http://r3ok.myforum365.com/index.php?topic=374.msg36505;topicseen#msg36505

The remark has become a sort of proverb in my social life. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: 04:33:26, 19-08-2008 »
Quote from: pim_derks on 22:01:00, 18-08-2008
Robert Simpson was a great admirer of Carl Nielsen. He had a Dutch mother.
Who did??!
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« Reply #8 on: 08:14:22, 19-08-2008 »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Simpson_%28composer%29

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« Reply #9 on: 23:07:05, 20-08-2008 »
I was raising a gentle eyebrow at your grammatical ambiguity, Pim. Wink

I like Robert Simpson's music, although I only really know the symphonies - I've never quite got round to the string quartets and other chamber music/concertos.
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« Reply #10 on: 10:31:30, 21-08-2008 »
I listened to the complete Simpson symphonic cycle on Radio 3 last year, t-i-n. Some thoughts:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio3/F2620064?thread=3841521&skip=0&show=20

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