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John W
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« on: 22:54:46, 15-02-2007 »
Can I kick off the new Early Music topic with the subject of this coming Saturday's show?

I'm not going to pretend - never heard of him. A quick look at my Scholes OCM reveals an eventful life, some of which was spent in London. A quick Yaahoo search reveals CDs of music from Naxos and others.

Anyone listened to the music of Francesco Maria Veracini? A neglected master?

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oliver sudden
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« Reply #1 on: 23:11:41, 15-02-2007 »
Prompted by your post I'm listening to some now on a wonderful MAK disc.

Don't buy it for that price though. Wink

It's pretty zany. And most of the other stuff on the disc is great too. Goebel's programme note says the Veracini Overture in Bb is "sufficiently grotesque and distortedly mannered to provide a worthy substitute for a piece by Jan Dismas Zelenka, whose works are not otherwise represented here". I'm not quite sure what he's getting at but I can recommend the disc... don't know their disc comprised solely of Veracini overtures but if they're half this good then this is twice as good as they are.
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« Reply #2 on: 23:18:14, 15-02-2007 »
Ollie,

As soon as you said 'zany' I thought of Zelenka. I remember that adjective being directed at him years ago, and not just because of the alliteration, which encouraged me to seek out his 'triple album' vinyl on ebay which turned up within a month. Unusual but exciting music to listen to, and I'm keen to hear Francesco Maria Veracini if he offers something similar, or not similar, I should say, if I'm seeking some different  Smiley


I'll check out those soundclips at Amazon tomorrow maybe.


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« Reply #3 on: 23:20:19, 15-02-2007 »
I remember finding the all-Veracini disc disappointing, but I think it must be time to blow the dust off it and give it a listen tomorrow. It's nothing like Zelenka, anyway, that's for sure.
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« Reply #4 on: 23:51:28, 15-02-2007 »
That's odd - I similarly found the Heineken on the MAK 'compilation' disc tremendous but the MAK double CD just of his overtures didn't really grab me.

Conversely, this lute concerto is the most boring Fasch I've heard for some time. I'm glad the chalumeau concerto is better that this!

Still, I note that the all-Veracini disc is either stupendously expensive or a copy (! from Arkiv Music) at the various Brazilian sites. Damn. You say you have a copy Richard?...
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« Reply #5 on: 11:17:49, 16-02-2007 »
I do say that, and it's on as I write. The trouble is with a whole CD of Veracini overtures is that the scoring doesn't vary (strings & continuo, with oboes doubling violins almost throughout) and the he worries away at his quirky little ideas until the attention begins to wander, mine anyway. Zelenka's music of course has neither of these faults, and neither does that of (another composer with a CD of his own on Carus, highly recommended from me) Pisendel, or for that matter Heinichen - I enjoy the MAK double CD of his concertos very much actually, principally because the instrumental colours are often so individual. Returning to Zelenka, it's about time those orchestral pieces had a really good recording - the first one, by Camerata Bern, is lively, colourful and expressive, but the instruments and playing style aren't very 18th century (as we know it). The more recent complete recording conducted by Jürgen Sonnentheil gets the latter aspects right but much of it sounds somewhat pale and perfunctory compared with what the Cologne or Freiburg groups would be capable of.
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« Reply #6 on: 15:39:56, 16-02-2007 »
I've just dug out my copy of a recording of some of his violin sonatas by John Holloway, Jaap Ter Linden and Lars Ulrik Mortensen on ECM. Recommended if you know the sound and style of their other ECM recordings. Should be an interesting programme tomorrow.
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« Reply #7 on: 13:09:12, 19-02-2007 »
Quote from: richard barrett on 11:17:49, 16-02-2007
compared with what the Cologne or Freiburg groups would be capable of.
If you mean MAK they'd better get a move on. They're disbanding late this year, I hear...
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« Reply #8 on: 17:13:46, 19-02-2007 »
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If you mean MAK they'd better get a move on. They're disbanding late this year, I hear...

Really? That's sad to hear. They've been around most of my adult life and I had sort of assumed without thinking about it that they would see me out, with or without a new Director. Good to have had their company over the years though. Made life considerably better.
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