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IgnorantRockFan
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« on: 22:23:22, 08-11-2008 »
Because I know we have a lot of helpful multi-lingual people here Smiley

The CD is Italian but the text looks German to me (and I can't read either). There quite a bit of it, so I'll just post the first couple of bits...

1. Branle de La Zag - Ronde 9
Die Erkennungsmelodie(n) von La Zag. Zwei Reigen, neu der erste aus der beruhmten Susato-Sammlung der zweite. Eine sehr ansprechende Kombination Dudelsack-Handharmonika.

2. Alamnde - Branle de Champaigne
Zwei schone Weisen eines anderen beliebten Tanze-Sammlers. Und zwei Gassenhauer zugliech. Die Renaissance-Schalmei zum frohlichen Tanz.

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« Reply #1 on: 22:39:38, 08-11-2008 »
Quote from: IgnorantRockFan on 22:23:22, 08-11-2008
1. Branle de La Zag - Ronde 9
Die Erkennungsmelodie(n) von La Zag. Zwei Reigen, neu der erste aus der beruhmten Susato-Sammlung der zweite. Eine sehr ansprechende Kombination Dudelsack-Handharmonika.

2. Alamnde - Branle de Champaigne
Zwei schone Weisen eines anderen beliebten Tanze-Sammlers. Und zwei Gassenhauer zugliech. Die Renaissance-Schalmei zum frohlichen Tanz.
...La Zag's signature tune. Two dances, the first one new, the second from Susato's famous collection. A very attractive combination of bagpipe and concertina.

...two pretty tunes from another much-loved dance collector. And two street tunes at once. The renaissance shawm dancing merrily.

You are wanting more? Please to be sending me scan.  Smiley

A Branle is a kind of dance but in modern French a branleur is a, er, Wayne Kerr, so to speak. Just so you know.
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« Reply #2 on: 22:50:27, 08-11-2008 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 22:39:38, 08-11-2008
A Branle is a kind of dance but in modern French a branleur is a, er, Wayne Kerr, so to speak. Just so you know.

I'm glad you got in before I had a go Ollie.  I got the drift but some of the technical terms were rather beyond me and I might have guessed embarrassingly.  I must admit I wondered whether I'd find Branle in Wichsipedia.  It's not in my dictionary.
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« Reply #3 on: 22:55:58, 08-11-2008 »
Quote from: HtoHe on 22:50:27, 08-11-2008
whether I'd find Branle in Wichsipedia.

I'm not the only one here who's going to get a giggle out of that...  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: 23:05:18, 08-11-2008 »
Isn't it usually spelled "bransle"?  Or sometimes?  The term always makes me think of trivial lute music and Agon.
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« Reply #5 on: 23:09:07, 08-11-2008 »
I know it best with the s, yes. Bransle gay, for example. A lot of old French words had esses that they don't have any more. Trap for young players.

Bourrée nowadays means drunk, by the way. And courante can refer to, er, the trots. You really wanted to know that, didn't you? Wink
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« Reply #6 on: 23:13:14, 08-11-2008 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 22:55:58, 08-11-2008
Quote from: HtoHe on 22:50:27, 08-11-2008
whether I'd find Branle in Wichsipedia.

I'm not the only one here who's going to get a giggle out of that...  Cheesy

Couldn't resist, ollie!  I know it's off topic but there was a programme recently about DC Thomson publications in which Ewan Kerr was mentioned as a senior executive of the company (editor of the Beano iirc).  At first I thought it was a hoax like those Captain Pugwash characters who were never really in the programme but which lots of people were kidded into 'remembering' from their childhood; but I checked and it seems Mr & Mrs Kerr really were innocent enough to call their boy Ewan.
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« Reply #7 on: 23:21:46, 08-11-2008 »
And then there's Hervé Niquet. (Check out what niqué means in French...  Undecided)

Staying almost on topic: quite a lot of old words have changed over time in a slightly unfortunate way. Wichsen originally meant to polish! The French verb baiser originally meant to kiss (the noun un baiser is still a kiss in fact). Nowadays it refers to, er, well, you've looked up niquer, yes?
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« Reply #8 on: 23:42:08, 08-11-2008 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 23:21:46, 08-11-2008
And then there's Hervé Niquet. (Check out what niqué means in French...  Undecided)

Staying almost on topic: quite a lot of old words have changed over time in a slightly unfortunate way. Wichsen originally meant to polish! The French verb baiser originally meant to kiss (the noun un baiser is still a kiss in fact). Nowadays it refers to, er, well, you've looked up niquer, yes?

They don't just change over time, though; they quite often lead double lives.  Niquer is a fine example: like Foutre and Con it can literally mean something guaranteed to disgust most of Tunbridge Wells while still being deemed an epithet mild enough for children's TV in France. 
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« Reply #9 on: 23:58:50, 08-11-2008 »
The French swearing vocabulary is something which has given me great pleasure over the years. When I first arrived in Europe from Australia I was commuting between Paris and Köln and of course adopted French gros mots very early on - most of my colleagues are either German or Anglophone and had no idea what I was saying.

Although there was a rehearsal where I looked up after one fulsome rant to see a harpist blushing quietly...
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« Reply #10 on: 00:05:58, 09-11-2008 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 22:39:38, 08-11-2008
You are wanting more? Please to be sending me scan.  Smiley

Thank you Smiley

A scan seems like a sensible idea... I must see if I can get my scanner working again  Embarrassed
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