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George Garnett
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« on: 10:41:03, 30-07-2007 » |
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Another of the big beasts in the artistic world is no longer around. A great man but one fortunate to have been able to leave an incredible body of work for us and future generations.
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #1 on: 10:43:51, 30-07-2007 » |
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That is a great shame indeed. Makes me think that I must finally get to see Persona, which for some reason I never have (seen most of the rest of his major works). I'm sure there'll be plenty chance to do so soon. What does anyone think of Cries and Whispers, which is one of my personal favourites?
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #2 on: 11:11:15, 30-07-2007 » |
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In days gone by there would have been a retrospective selection of his best work on TV, possibly even on two channels. It's just possible that we might see some sort of 'hundred best moments of Bergman' documentary, but I find it sad that regularly catching the great films on the box is a thing of the past, and that as the MacDonaldisation of our culture is hastened ever onward by the continuous repetition of lowest common denominator movies on endless satellite channels, succeeding generations are deluded into believing that great cinema must be by definition Hollywood schlock-busters.
A great director not only on film: I was lucky enough to an example of his extraordinary stage work during the early seventies.
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« Reply #3 on: 11:33:10, 30-07-2007 » |
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 Only saw the Seventh Seal last week for the first time.
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« Reply #4 on: 11:33:37, 30-07-2007 » |
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I was lucky enough to an example of his extraordinary stage work during the early seventies.
I think one of the most involving experiences I've had in the theatre was seeing Bergman's production of Hamlet (in Swedish, of which I don't speak a word!) at the NT in the mid 80's. Being slightly shut out of the language, I was really swept along by what seemed like Bergman's portrayal of the characters psychology just in terms of the stagecraft. Lots of laser-projected red lines on the stage and people emerging out of shadows as I remember. Sorry to hear of this. |
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« Reply #5 on: 11:53:34, 30-07-2007 » |
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richard barrett
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« Reply #6 on: 11:56:24, 30-07-2007 » |
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #7 on: 12:00:31, 30-07-2007 » |
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Anyone else seen his very weird film of Die Zauberflöte? Just watched that recently - definitively non-realist filming, with an emphasis on the grotesque, and his own sort of wry humour brought into it - well worth it.
(should be interesting to see how some of the newsreaders and other presenters pronounce his name when speaking of his death)
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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George Garnett
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« Reply #8 on: 12:30:51, 30-07-2007 » |
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A great director not only on film: I was lucky enough to see an example of his extraordinary stage work during the early seventies.
His Hedda Gabler with Maggie Smith, Robert Stephens and Jeremy Brett by any chance, Ron? One of the big theatrical experiences of my little life. |
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« Reply #9 on: 12:36:15, 30-07-2007 » |
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I'm very fond of his earlier ,funnier films.
I'm glad he came back to make 'Saraband' . I wonder if he was dissatisfied with the way Billes August and Liv Ullmannn directed his screenplays for 'The Best Intentions' and 'Faithless'.
I do like 'Cries and Whispers' ,but I prefer 'Scenes from a Marriage' from that period.
I think my favourite Bergman films are 'Winter Light'and 'Through a Glass darkly', and despite the claims of Ullmann, Erland Josephsson and Max von Sydow,my favourite Bergman actor is Gunnar Bjornstrand. I find I can watch him again and again and learn something new every time.
Any other fabvourite 'auteurs'? Anyone for Tarkovsky, Kurosawa,Jean Renoir?
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« Reply #10 on: 12:39:40, 30-07-2007 » |
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I'm not generally that interested in films, but I do have a lot of time for Tarkovsky, I think mainly because of his sense of timing and use of sound.
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #11 on: 13:03:48, 30-07-2007 » |
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I saw Tarkovsky's Andrei Rublev once on TV yonks ago (30 years or more, I would guess), but it's left a huge impression, and I believe I can still recall certain scenes quite accurately. The coup d'écran in the final sequence is stunning. Very keen on the work of Eisenstein, too. Has anyone seen any of the extraordinary movies by Yilmaz Güney, the Kurdish Turk? Channel 4 did a season of his work in the mid-eighties, some of which I still have on video. Films as harrowing as his own story. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y?lmaz_Güney GG, No, it wasn't the Hedda Gabler, but Strindberg's Ett Dromspel (A Dream Play) at one of those wonderful World Theatre seasons at the Aldwych. Cast headed by Max von Sydow. In Swedish, of course, but there had been a Radio 3 adaptation a couple of years previously which I'd recorded and listenened to over and over again until I knew it nearly by heart, so I hardly used the wand translator thingie that was available. |
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George Garnett
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« Reply #12 on: 13:27:50, 30-07-2007 » |
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Anyone else seen his very weird film of Die Zauberflöte? Just watched that recently - definitively non-realist filming, with an emphasis on the grotesque, and his own sort of wry humour brought into it - well worth it.
I have long had a great affection for it, Ian. It actually got a commercial cinema release in the UK when it first came out in nineteen seventy something(?) !!! My video of it went the way of all videos some years ago but thanks to the good offices of Mr Oliver Sudden, no less, I am now the happy owner of a DVD version. Once you've seen 'Trollflojten' sung in Swedish with Portuguese subtitles nothing else seems satisfactory somehow  . In fact I think it may be this evening's viewing. |
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #13 on: 14:28:20, 30-07-2007 » |
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Any other fabvourite 'auteurs'? Anyone for Tarkovsky, Kurosawa,Jean Renoir? Renoir yes, Tarkovsky to an extent. Mixed feelings about Kurosawa - prefer Mizoguchi (though only seen a few of his films) and Ozu (likewise). Other favourite directors (I'm not wholly convinced by the 'auteur' theory, so will call them simply directors) - Von Sternberg, the later Ford, Hitchcock, Fuller, Powell, Lyndsay Anderson, Clouzot, Bunuel, Blier, Fassbinder, Wenders, Pasolini, Lynch, amongst others. |
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« Reply #14 on: 14:48:08, 30-07-2007 » |
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I very rarely feel compelled to watch films more than once, but I am very impressed by Pasolini. He was also a highly original poet.
Favorites are Porcile, Teorema, and Uccellacci e Uccellini. I am sad not to have seen very many of his films yet. One that I'd love to see is Comizi d'Amore, a kind of documentary where he asks average people about their attitudes toward human sexuality.
Like Ollie, I have never seen any Bergman... and am sad for that, too.
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