|
richard barrett
|
 |
« Reply #60 on: 11:08:04, 19-05-2008 » |
|
I suspect Daniel Barenboim might in a way have actually been making that same point That he objects to lifestyle-image-driven marketing?  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Ian Pace
|
|
« Reply #61 on: 12:00:08, 19-05-2008 » |
|
I wonder what Barenboim makes of Satie's ideas about musique d'ameublement? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
|
|
|
|
richard barrett
|
|
« Reply #62 on: 12:31:14, 19-05-2008 » |
|
If you've seen the TV programme before hearing the music, as is the case with me and Crown Court (see above) among many other examples, it can become almost impossible to respond to the music as a whole piece and not as a musical landscape with incongruous sore thumbs sticking out of it. I often find myself feeling resentful about this kind of thing, since it still happens that I'm hearing a repertoire piece for the first time (last time was with the finale of Rachmaninov's first symphony) and suddenly a TV theme from the past pops out and completely skews my listening. I suppose the answer is to get to know the repertoire earlier in life than I did. Or not to watch broadcast TV, which I've done for the past year without really noticing.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Ruby2
|
|
« Reply #63 on: 12:49:25, 19-05-2008 » |
|
A couple from Eric Coates:
Sleepy Lagoon - Desert Island Discs
Has anyone ever asked to take that to the island with them? Although that would be slightly odd as they'd end up playing it about 3 times... |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Two wrongs don't make a right. But three rights do make a left." - Rohan Candappa
|
|
|
|
Ruby2
|
|
« Reply #64 on: 12:57:49, 19-05-2008 » |
|
On the Prokofiev Romeo and Juliet thread, our sponsered ( sic ) links threw up an offer to purchase "The Apprentice" ringtone. And, of course, it is them Montagues and Capulets innit ?
Please accept my heartfelt apologies for causing that experience! Ride of Valkyries might have been a better one. Or... what's that tune that you traditionally get in circuses? Duh duh diddle-iddle uh duh deeer-duh... That might be more appropriate. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Two wrongs don't make a right. But three rights do make a left." - Rohan Candappa
|
|
|
|
martle
|
|
« Reply #65 on: 13:03:00, 19-05-2008 » |
|
Ruby2, I believe you're thinking of Sousa's March of the Gladiators.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Green. Always green.
|
|
|
|
marbleflugel
|
|
« Reply #66 on: 13:06:09, 19-05-2008 » |
|
I empathise with Richard's problem, and I agree that a prolonged break from the box is a good remedy- I would add though that some associations from childhood can be definitively dynamic and allow you to experience the music afresh whe you get to hear the whole thing. The aural landscape of Classic FM ,where early on someone said '..And now-Beethoven!' and played an Andrex commercial, has at times been dire from this point of view, its got a little better I think because someone's realised it matters to the ABC1 advertisers.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
'...A celebrity is someone who didn't get the attention they needed as an adult'
Arnold Brown
|
|
|
|
Don Basilio
|
|
« Reply #67 on: 13:24:20, 19-05-2008 » |
|
Duh duh diddle-iddle uh duh deeer-duh...
Grand March from Aida. A Verdi lover would know it anywhere. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven.
A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
|
|
|
|
Ruby2
|
|
« Reply #68 on: 13:47:57, 19-05-2008 » |
|
Ruby2, I believe you're thinking of Sousa's March of the Gladiators.
It does sound a bit like it could be Sousa. If it was in C, would it have a bit in the middle that goes G F F Csharp D, G F F Csharp D, where the Fs are quavers and the rest crotchets? (that's the really distinctive bit) Sorry Don Basilio, that's not the one I was thinking of, although it does kind of work with the "diddles" doesn't it? My fault for being so vague! |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: 13:50:42, 19-05-2008 by Ruby2 »
|
Logged
|
"Two wrongs don't make a right. But three rights do make a left." - Rohan Candappa
|
|
|
|
Ron Dough
|
|
« Reply #69 on: 14:00:10, 19-05-2008 » |
|
Entry of the Gladiators is by Fučik, surely?
Sousa's Liberty Bell, however, is connected with something completely different....
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Ruby2
|
|
« Reply #70 on: 14:14:10, 19-05-2008 » |
|
Entry of the Gladiators is by Fučik, surely?
Sousa's Liberty Bell, however, is connected with something completely different....
Sousa does have a march called "The Gladiator" which I located from a quick search... Now managed to play a bit and it does sound circussy but not the thing I was thinking of. Mind you, it's hard to tell from awful midi files, but they can be quite entertaining (unfortunately this machine can't deal with anything more elaborate!) Yes I think Python was mentioned a few pages back.  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Two wrongs don't make a right. But three rights do make a left." - Rohan Candappa
|
|
|
|
Ruby2
|
|
« Reply #71 on: 14:21:38, 19-05-2008 » |
|
Entry of the Gladiators is by Fučik, surely?
Oh you've got it! Well done you, and thanks! Hilarious midi file on Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Fu%C4%8D%C3%ADk_(composer)I shall send my suggestion for a new theme for the Apprentice to the BBC straight away.  |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: 14:24:55, 19-05-2008 by Ruby2 »
|
Logged
|
"Two wrongs don't make a right. But three rights do make a left." - Rohan Candappa
|
|
|
|
Don Basilio
|
|
« Reply #72 on: 14:36:57, 19-05-2008 » |
|
Sorry Don Basilio, that's not the one I was thinking of, although it does kind of work with the "diddles" doesn't it? My fault for being so vague!
Not you fault at all, I misread it for: Duh Duh. Diddley dum dum dum Diddley DUH dum dum |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven.
A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
|
|
|
|
iwarburton
|
|
« Reply #73 on: 16:34:47, 19-05-2008 » |
|
Entry of the Gladiators is by Fučik, surely?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That's just reminded me of another Fucik piece, Florentiner March.
It's the tune that's being played in the film Brassed Off, when the band are playing in a competition at the same time as, back at home, the colliery closure notices are being put up.
Many postings ago there was mention of the Clog Dance from La Fille Mal Gardee. The programme that this used to introduce was Home This Afternoon.
Did I mention that my introduction to the splendid Overture from Faure's Masques et Bergamasques arose when it had a spell as the sig tune of Woman's Hour, to which my mum then listened? On a similar tack, I think that Weekend Woman's Hour at one time used the Waltz of the Cornflowers and Poppies from the Summer section of the Seasons by Glazunov.
Delighted with the response to my original posting and have learned a good deal. But there must be many more such tunes yet.
Ian.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
MabelJane
|
|
« Reply #74 on: 20:51:11, 19-05-2008 » |
|
Thanks Ruby2, that's made me . I seem to remember that Fučík's Entrance of the Gladiators was in a Prom recently - the Last Night? It sounded somewhat better than this version! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.
|
|
|
|
