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Author Topic: Iain Burnside show, 14 September, Composers of Bohemia  (Read 294 times)
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« on: 10:37:16, 14-09-2008 »

I am listening to Iain Burnside show called music of Bohemia.

I love this part of the world.
I don't know much about music of that region. All I know is Smetana and Dvorak, and Janacek that came later.
I know a little about music of Josef Suk. I played one piece for violin by Suk recently.

I just heard that Martinue (composer that I don't know well, but liked some of children pieces that I heard) is also Bohemian composer.

Today they played Martinue' violin concerto. I liked this concerto a lot.

 
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« Reply #1 on: 18:19:10, 14-09-2008 »

There are great number of composers who came from Bohemia - although sometimes they are considered "Austro-Hungarian" or even German, because of the changing political borders of the area.

Stamic ("Stamitz") father & son, Biber, the Benda brothers, Reicha, Hummel...   I'm sure we can think of many more Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: 18:21:35, 14-09-2008 »

Mahler, for example. Born in Kaliště.
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« Reply #3 on: 18:52:23, 14-09-2008 »

I think Brahms was under a lot of influence from Hungarian music. But also he knew Bohemian musicians.
Can one say that Brahms was influenced by Bohemian music?
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« Reply #4 on: 19:00:20, 14-09-2008 »

Pedantic aside, but Janacek was Moravian not Bohemian - a bile like confusing Northerners and Southerners in England.. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: 19:04:44, 14-09-2008 »

As, I now read, was František Vincenc Kramář, probably better known as Franz Krommer...
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« Reply #6 on: 21:43:07, 14-09-2008 »

Leschitizky was Bohemian, I think. He was the best piano teacher ever (probably). He tought everyone from Russia to America.
There were some pianists who were not tought by him, but not too many.
I thought for some reason that he used too much finger technique and not enough weight from the arm (free fall), but I don't really know.
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« Reply #7 on: 21:49:38, 14-09-2008 »

I think Leschetitzky was Polish - he was born in Poland, and as well as the usual "Theodor Leschetizky" spelling there's an original Polish one: "Teodor Leszetycki"

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« Reply #8 on: 21:56:18, 14-09-2008 »

I think Leschetitzky was Polish - he was born in Poland, and as well as the usual "Theodor Leschetizky" spelling there's an original Polish one: "Teodor Leszetycki"

Grove says he was born in Łańcut, Galicia but I'm assuming that he saw himself as Polish rather than as Galician. I don't really know much about that part of the world and its history.
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« Reply #9 on: 21:59:02, 14-09-2008 »

I think Leschetitzky was Polish - he was born in Poland, and as well as the usual "Theodor Leschetizky" spelling there's an original Polish one: "Teodor Leszetycki"

Grove says he was born in Łańcut, Galicia but I'm assuming that he saw himself as Polish rather than as Galician. I don't really know much about that part of the world and its history.

Neither do I but I could have sworn Ł was a Polish letter. More research required...
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« Reply #10 on: 21:59:52, 14-09-2008 »

...er...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%81a%C5%84cut

Yes, I can see how he might have steered clear of defining himself as Galician. The Galicians might have looked at him strangely. And then offered him a glass of rioja and a board with tempting bits of octopus on.
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« Reply #11 on: 22:02:29, 14-09-2008 »

...er...
url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Central_Europe)
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« Reply #12 on: 22:04:13, 14-09-2008 »

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Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name

I can understand that. When I was last in Galicia the bit of the Atlantic I was looking at didn't feel particularly Central European...

...ah, when I put the bracket back on it starts to make more sense...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: 22:22:40, 14-09-2008 »

I read somewhere that Leschetizky was so sad during the WWI. He was used to have students around himself and now they all were on the different sides of the front line. He died soon after.
Also there are many Polish people in Russia. For example, Tchaikovsky is a Polish name. However, he was probably Polish many generation ago.
Names that ends on ky are usually of Polish origin. My Polish friend was always sad that Tchaikovsky became Russian. This Polish woman was my best friend ever, though she was much older. She was really good person, very kind and generous.
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« Reply #14 on: 22:57:47, 14-09-2008 »

I read somewhere that Leschetizky was so sad during the WWI. He was used to have students around himself and now they all were on the different sides of the front line. He died soon after.
Also there are many Polish people in Russia. For example, Tchaikovsky is a Polish name. However, he was probably Polish many generation ago.
Names that ends on ky are usually of Polish origin. My Polish friend was always sad that Tchaikovsky became Russian. This Polish woman was my best friend ever, though she was much older. She was really good person, very kind and generous.

Poor old chap wasn't sad for that much of WWI - he died in November 1915, admittedly at a grand old age (born in 1830).
Interesting point about the Russian connections - Leschetitzky cofounded the St Petersburg Conservatoire.

This stuff about Galicia is a bit misleading (especially given the scope for confusion with the other Galicia). Łańcut is in the province of the Subcarpathians (Subcarpathian Voivodeship) in the far south-eastern corner of Poland.
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