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Author Topic: I am turning it off more; are you?  (Read 1148 times)
calum da jazbo
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« on: 11:14:49, 09-04-2007 »

A few weeks post the restructure and I wondered how people felt it was going in terms of listening to r3 as opposed to writing about it. i find that i switch channels or off more often, less goodwill to sit through what i do not like.
i can not seem to find concerts that are concerts, maybe my lack of looking.
personalities are now more irritating and less tolerable.
the MEKON may have saved some money, succeeded in ghettoising jazz, and put focus into some areas but it feels like crap to me.
i wrote on the jazz bored over there that i thought his leadership was a national disgrace, and i feel the consequences so far reinforce that conclusion.
i am a disgruntled jazzbo who really likes classical music and have listened a lot to r3 over many years. i am very disappointed by what thew MEKON has done.
what do the more classically tuned listeners think of it so far, has r3 gone/survived/been compromised.....?
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« Reply #1 on: 11:30:52, 09-04-2007 »

I'm persevering although I use the word advisedly.  I'm not turning it off, but I'm having to grit my teeth a lot of the time to stay loyal. 

R3 wakes us up in the morning and is on for me all day while I'm working or if I just want to sit and really concentrate on something special.  I also have it on in the car.

I hardly ever watch tv - I'm very choosy and have never watched a "soap" of any description.  My general knowledge has suffered greatly as a result  - I've noticed when I've tried to do quizzes and they always have questions on soap celebs I've never heard of.

R3 has definitely been compromised to a very great degree in what I think will be a vain attempt to appeal to the masses.  It's very disappointing but I'm personally hoping that realisation will eventually dawn on them and we may go back to how things used to be.
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« Reply #2 on: 12:12:33, 09-04-2007 »

Since I can only listen online I tend to rely heavily on listen-again for a few established favourites. Otherwise I have been largely unaffected by the changes in programming. But I do find the increased quantity of what I call blather in programmes that used to be old favourites (i.e. in tune) a definite turn-off. When I turn on the radio (or go online) to listen to music, I don't want to have some blatherskite displaying their ignorance (which is sometimes almost as great as mine).
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« Reply #3 on: 15:42:18, 09-04-2007 »


I agree with Milly. While I may not actually switch the radio off, mentally I find that I am `tuning out`. Often because of the `blather`, then I realise that I haven`t tuned back in to what is being played. It looks as though R3 is rapidly becoming more about wallpaper music, than music to actually listen to, never mind actually learning about it.

Having said that, Burnside was excellent this week, but mainly because Mark Elder was the guest. More guests of that quality would be very welcome.
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« Reply #4 on: 16:27:59, 09-04-2007 »

Milly Jones

I do so agree about the TV Soaps! I have never watched any. When I spent a year in Australia teaching, the children in my class when I returned only wanted to know what had happened in 'Neighbours' as they thought I would be well up on that!

I don't think my Radio 3 listening has changed that much, but that is because I am more of a Radio 4 listener and started to listen more to Radio 3 after finding the Classical Music MB from which, and from this, I have learnt a lot more about different composers and works. This has greatly enhanced my listening.
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« Reply #5 on: 18:44:16, 09-04-2007 »

I think the new R3 is still evolving; I detect subtle ongoing changes as the weeks go by.

I like Rob Cowan at Breakfast time, but his delivery has changed even since the beginning. At first his introductions were more like on the old Cowan Collection or CD Masters (albeit in slightly truncated form) whereas now I think he has become more concise in giving out the information, with a bit less opinion. I'm OK with that, myself. There are far too many time checks creeping in, on all programmes.

As I said on the Afternoon on Three thread, I don't have a problem with the format there, mainly because I don't really expect (or require) a concert format at that time of day.

Burnside is a great disappointment in terms of the chat and the guests. This week was actually very good with Mark Elder talking aboutthe music itself, but usually it's a big turn-off for me. Iain Burnside could do much better than that; his previous programme, Voices, was a far better use of his talents.


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« Reply #6 on: 11:00:56, 10-04-2007 »

I don't turn *off* more but I do seem to be turning *on* less than I was six months ago. I think there are two reasons, and both of them are the fault of the message boards:

1) Because I can't listen at work, I used to rely on "Listen Again" in the eveings, and I used the programme discussions on the old R3 boards to tell me what I should spend my (limited) LA time on. Well, we all know what R3 did to kill that  Sad

2) My classical CD collection has exploded in size over the last few months, thanks to the many recommendations from the messageboarders, and now I'm much more likely to put on a CD than suffer the unpredictable quality of the radio stream.

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« Reply #7 on: 00:04:15, 11-04-2007 »

I have probably spent as much, if not more, time listening to R3 post-19th Feb; my hackles have risen many times in consequence. I have just posted my thoughts re Afternoon on Three (basically, content good, random ordering bad); I've commented on Sarah Walker (favourable so long as she is not inviting us to email her); In Tune seems much as it always was - ie for me, acceptable in small doses - hate the 7pm concert without an interval, but prefer the later Late Junction; haven't heard much of Rob Cowan or Iain Burnside., but wish Voices was still with us, and (sorry, I know I'm in a minority here) have never really taken to Rob C anyway - preferred Jonathan Swain. CoTW - long may it continue.

No, my biggest complaint is the amount of time (0700 - 1200, some of 1700 - 1900) spent on playing CDs, the absence of live broadcasts, and the bizarre choice of new music deemed worth of BBC support. I don't like the dumbing down of presentation, but I like the dumbing down of content even less.
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« Reply #8 on: 08:35:18, 11-04-2007 »

No, I'm not turning it of more, but turning it on less: not at all over the past few days, although I've archived some programmes for (possible) future listening. After all, if they can select, compress, re-order and hold stuff over until a later date, then why shouldn't I?
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« Reply #9 on: 08:43:12, 11-04-2007 »

I am more selective but it is pretty hard to beat the evening schedule compared to what is available on other medias.
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« Reply #10 on: 17:02:58, 11-04-2007 »

not last night, the footie was epic, glorious stuff!
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« Reply #11 on: 19:02:22, 11-04-2007 »

I, too, have to grit my teeth. Many times I just can't take it and have to tune it out (with a CD).
I tried to do a count of post 1900 (ish) to pre 1900 and, although not a scientific result, most times it pre 1900  - 2 to post 1900 8. It's just a shame that over a thousand years of music gets just 20% while 100 years gets 80%. More especially when much of it has so many discords that it hurts.
I'm not sure R3 is "Classic music" any more. It's more "Contemporary music"
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« Reply #12 on: 20:21:29, 11-04-2007 »

Pardon me while I split my sides laughing.
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« Reply #13 on: 20:35:41, 11-04-2007 »

Pardon me while I split my sides laughing.
Pardon me while I join you in the same; laughter or no laughter, this ritual side-splitting could have physically dangerous consequences on quite an alarming scale if too many others find themselves to be similarly inclined in their response here...

Best,

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« Reply #14 on: 20:45:20, 11-04-2007 »

Pardon me while I split my sides laughing.
Pardon me while I join you in the same; laughter or no laughter, this ritual side-splitting could have physically dangerous consequences on quite an alarming scale if too many others find themselves to be similarly inclined in their response here...

Best,

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I applied the masking tape on Feb 19th (actually it was a renewal of tape that has been gradually added over the last ten years or so...)
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