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marbleflugel
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« on: 12:56:09, 16-08-2008 »

Recently I downloaded Audacity to  start making a podcast.
As a student of the way of the dongle, I  thought this might be easy enough to grasp but it isn't,  and apart from a few pdf's there are no manuals according to Google.

1.It appears to impossible to switch it off sometimes, since when I start up the laptop 1 or 2 programmes are already running.

2. One of  the 'programs running' when 2 appears to be the Mac version which I downloaded accidentally. How do I get rid of it?

3. I recorded an interview which split itself into 12 second bits-bit of a long job for 25 minutes' worth and I can't grasp how to do it. I think I may need to find a short course somewhere, but any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks Guys.

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« Reply #1 on: 13:01:18, 16-08-2008 »

So what's actually sitting in your programmes list, marbs? And what O.S. are you using?
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« Reply #2 on: 14:07:20, 16-08-2008 »

Hi Ron

OS is  Windows XP. Dell Latitude about 5 years old.

Programmes-not much really:

Rendera graphics editor
PageBreeze HTML editor   
Lame mp3 encoder
Usual Windows stuff but not Office.
drivers for '3' dongle (only known to conflict with a/v cloning  programes)
Flash 9

Yet constant messages of 'fatal error-disk is full' (I assume hard disk) and invitations to delete. The audacity files themselves, even the 12 second splits, seem to be taking up unreasonable amounts of  space uncompressed.

Thanks
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« Reply #3 on: 14:55:49, 16-08-2008 »

So Audacity isn't showing up twice in the Programmes list?

I'm not much of an Audacity expert - it lasted about five minutes on my PC before I decided it wasn't for me - but I think the first thing I'd do in your case would be to make sure that all the files I'd made with it were backed up safely elsewhere, then de-install it and re-install. Were you using the stable 1.2.6 version, or the beta 1.3.5.? Or have you downloaded both? Stick to the earlier version for now.

 What rate were you recording at - was it mp3, or the full 16/44.1 wave rate? If the latter, then yes, your files will be pretty big....
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« Reply #4 on: 17:43:55, 18-08-2008 »

Audacity files are gigantic - if you're going to use it regularly, it's worth leaving a couple of GB free for that purpose. The nice thing is that once you've converted your recording into MP3 or whatever other format, you can delete the Audacity date folder and get all that disc space back.* (Worth noting too that Audacity data accumulates throughout the whole of an editing session - so if you add and delete a lot of stuff within one Audacity session, it all temporarily takes up disc space - once you restart your editing session though, a lot of the space gets freed up again.)

* A less nice thing is that that Audacity folder can't be moved elsewhere (to a backup harddrive, say) and still work - everything needs to be in the location in which it was first saved. At least that's my experience - others might know a workaround for this.
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« Reply #5 on: 19:53:54, 18-08-2008 »

Audacity files are gigantic - if you're going to use it regularly, it's worth leaving a couple of GB free for that purpose. The nice thing is that once you've converted your recording into MP3 or whatever other format, you can delete the Audacity date folder and get all that disc space back.*

Indeed - to give an idea of how big, each of the Audacity folders for the two performances of Gruppen recorded from the Proms broadcast was a little under 600mb (and in the end neither was usable, because of drop-outs  Angry )
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« Reply #6 on: 19:59:14, 18-08-2008 »

Audacity in my experience is very unreliable indeed. I'm a couple of versions behind the current one though.
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« Reply #7 on: 20:36:09, 18-08-2008 »

A less nice thing is that that Audacity folder can't be moved elsewhere (to a backup harddrive, say) and still work - everything needs to be in the location in which it was first saved. At least that's my experience - others might know a workaround for this.

Keep the .aup file and the _data folder together and you can move them where you like trj.

Audacity might not be the best there is (it's the best I've tried but that doesn't mean much Cheesy) but it has the advantages of being free and being available for Linux.
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« Reply #8 on: 21:40:04, 18-08-2008 »

thancs guys (elyzabrthan mode agayn)-pleased to have opened a wyder dyscussyon. y am wonderyng yf total recorder would be a better optyon-or what servycasble alteratyves are there? fryend of myne has pro tools whych loocs very expensyve.  ys there a low-myd range logyc-type system?
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« Reply #9 on: 21:45:30, 18-08-2008 »

I've been using Pro Tools since 1993 and I find it a very comfortable environment to work in, mainly for that reason I dare say. I don't know what you're planning on doing, Marb, but it may be that PT does a lot of things you wouldn't be interested in.
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« Reply #10 on: 23:21:33, 18-08-2008 »

Again, I've not much experience of Total Recorder, marbs, but I do know people who are very happy with it, and the whole set up is more flexible than Audacity, with upgrades for more functions if you need them, which take it closer into the semi-professional league. Were you a Mac user, I'd be pointing yet again to Audio Hijack Pro and its editing sibling Fission. which is just the most analogue-like of editing programmes I've ever used, and a total joy. I also use DSP-Quattro (Mac only)and Pro Tools (cross-platform): in Windows mode I also use Wavelab Essential - there's a new version recently released, Wavelab 6 Essential, which might be well worth checking out: not too expensive, and if it's like its predecessors, easy to learn.
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« Reply #11 on: 23:27:50, 18-08-2008 »

I've been using Pro Tools since 1993 and I find it a very comfortable environment to work in, mainly for that reason I dare say. I don't know what you're planning on doing, Marb, but it may be that PT does a lot of things you wouldn't be interested in.

I haven't got ProTools on my new Mac yet. Because I've got OS X 10.5.4, this requires the latest version of PT. Fortunately I can get it through work but that's going to require me getting my act together on the same day that they have time to install it.

I like ProTools and with my MBox and external hard drive, it's helped me record quite a lot in the past.
I really must get around to getting things like that (and Max/MSP) installed.
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« Reply #12 on: 08:32:52, 19-08-2008 »

Thanks again all for your experiences and advice (from the office). Ron, those look well worth checking out. I've worked with a colleague who uses pro tools and it struck me as user-friendly but probably avast file - I was hoping to put or even sync notation software on the same machine. I tend to take a while to master new kit when sometimes I need to a straightforward task imminently. But this is worth an overall  rethink, and your advice in invaluable.
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