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You mean Sarah Palin though, I presume.
AH. That makes more sense. What views of hers do you find so astonishingly officially accepted? Being anti*-abortion even in cases of rape or incest is the one that shocks me most, if it's true that she is. All her views appal me, but that's one I would have thought few people would condone. A belief in creationism is also very worrying. * Edited for obvious reasonsI'm also having trouble with sentence construction today. Your trouble with sentence construction is actually working remarkably well with my inability to read today, as I somehow read the above as Sarah Palin is pro-abortion which appeals to you.... Early night for both of us?  |
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« Reply #136 on: 15:34:23, 08-09-2008 » |
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I thought she was anti-abortion, even in cases of rape or incest? Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick. Always a possibility.
I'll have some of what Mary is having . Aaargh! All I've had is some tea and a salmon and cucumber sandwich. Oh, and some orange juice from Tesco, which must have been tampered with  . I'm very tired though, and the mere thought of Sarah What's-her-name makes me lose all reason. |
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« Reply #137 on: 15:41:53, 08-09-2008 » |
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Nobody can regard abortion as desirable, but what really angers me is that the same people who want to legislate against it are the most enthusiastic for the death sentence. It strikes me as illogical and cruel.
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« Reply #138 on: 15:47:43, 08-09-2008 » |
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I agree with you Don Basilio. It is strange and not logical. I think politicians all over the world behave similarly. I recently heard on Russian TV an interview wish Zhirinovsky.  I don't know if people here know him. He was saying that Russia doesn't need anything from the West. Russia has everything it needs to survive on its own. He is popular with older people. He was saying everything people want to hear because they are afraid. They feel threatened, prices are going up and most countries are against them. I hate politicians like him. |
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« Reply #139 on: 15:49:23, 08-09-2008 » |
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Nobody can regard abortion as desirable, but what really angers me is that the same people who want to legislate against it are the most enthusiastic for the death sentence. It strikes me as illogical and cruel.
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« Reply #140 on: 15:57:16, 08-09-2008 » |
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Nobody can regard abortion as desirable, but what really angers me is that the same people who want to legislate against it are the most enthusiastic for the death sentence. It strikes me as illogical and cruel.
It's not inconsistent when you remember that the abortion debate in US politics, like that about the death penalty, is absolutely nothing to do with life and everything to do with power and who wields it. Just like the creationism issue. |
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« Reply #141 on: 16:01:21, 08-09-2008 » |
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Nobody can regard abortion as desirable, but what really angers me is that the same people who want to legislate against it are the most enthusiastic for the death sentence. It strikes me as illogical and cruel.
It's not inconsistent when you remember that the abortion debate in US politics, like that about the death penalty, is absolutely nothing to do with life and everything to do with power and who wields it. Just like the creationism issue. |
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« Reply #142 on: 16:32:56, 08-09-2008 » |
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"creationism" A total misunderstanding of how the Bible is understood in christian tradition. It is not traditional. People who express love of books, but can never quote anything other than the opening are always suspect, and those who think Genesis 1 is to be taken literally have probably not read Genesis 2.
If C S Lewis can convey truths through imaginative writing, then why can't God?
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« Reply #143 on: 19:22:38, 08-09-2008 » |
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Quote from: Don Basilio on Today at 15:41:53
Nobody can regard abortion as desirable,
they cant?
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« Reply #144 on: 19:32:43, 08-09-2008 » |
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Nobody can regard the need for an abortion as desirable? ie adequate contraception is preferable. I do apologise if I am being insensitive about something that will never involve me. An abortion may well be the best solution in some circumstances, but with contraception, surely it is better to avoid the need for a termination in the first place, if possible?
I am treading on eggshells, and won't say anything further.
The death sentence is a clear difference between the USA and Europe, thank goodness.
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« Reply #145 on: 22:12:17, 08-09-2008 » |
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He was saying that Russia doesn't need anything from the West. Russia has everything it needs to survive on its own.
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« Reply #146 on: 22:19:29, 08-09-2008 » |
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Nobody can regard the need for an abortion as desirable? ie adequate contraception is preferable. I do apologise if I am being insensitive about something that will never involve me. An abortion may well be the best solution in some circumstances, but with contraception, surely it is better to avoid the need for a termination in the first place, if possible?
The death sentence is a clear difference between the USA and Europe, thank goodness.
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« Reply #147 on: 22:23:31, 08-09-2008 » |
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Thank you for that, Mary. I am aware it is an issue that will never involve me closely, so I do not wish to hold forth about what does not concern me and very closely concerns lots of others (ie women). My father was always convinced he would have been unwanted, and he was never keen on the idea.
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« Reply #148 on: 22:33:50, 08-09-2008 » |
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Reiner,
My friends here are telling me that Zhirinovsky says a slogan:
Every woman has to have a man (there is such a shortage of men in Russia because of mortality rate and wars). He knows how to get his votes from people, such a unpleasant character.
I can not translate this slogan. Can you do it better? It sounds so funny in Russian.
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« Reply #149 on: 23:19:55, 08-09-2008 » |
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Oh, I'd really rather not repeat any of "Mad Vlad's" unpleasant sexist bilge in any language, t-p!  I'm not sure who is worse - him or Eduard Limonov  |
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