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Author Topic: Poetry Appreciation Thread.  (Read 19823 times)
time_is_now
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« Reply #105 on: 15:33:33, 27-04-2007 »

"[...] says 'No' to the known world, and creates in so doing another world, desired, indispensable, and impossible without the transformation necessary to the known."

That sounds like an orchestral piece by one of our distinguished Members.

It also (he says, talking to himself) sounds uncannily like a quotation from this book:
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #106 on: 21:57:54, 28-04-2007 »

Balmont
In my dreams I pursued the fleeting shadows
The fleeting shadows of the darkening day,
I climbed the tower and the staircase trembled,
The staircase trembled beneath my feet.

The higher I went, the clearer I pictured
The clearer I pictured the shape of the land
And strange sounds rang out around me,
Rang out around me from Heaven and Earth.

The higher I climbed, the brighter shone,
The brighter shone the dreaming peaks,
And with a parting glow, seemed to caress,
Sweetly caress my bleary sight.

And beneath me night had already fallen,
Night had fallen over sleeping Earth,
For me the sun was shining,
Afar, a burning sun died out.

I learned to catch the fleeting shadows,
The fleeting shadows of dimming day,
And I climbed ever higher and the staircase trembled,
The staircase trembled beneath my feet.
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« Reply #107 on: 02:20:47, 02-05-2007 »

Another Balmont gem thank you Madame Pianist!
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« Reply #108 on: 02:23:19, 02-05-2007 »

This is by the Hon. Roden Noel, author also of "A Modern Faust" and "A Philosophy of Immortality". Elgar set his "Sea Slumber Song" as the first of the "Sea Pictures" opus 37. Noel had a sense stronger than have most for the adjectival in language.



                MYSTIC MUSIC

    FAINT memory of a dreamborn tune,
    Muffled low the music sounded,
    But the same air, reforming soon,
    More lovely, ever more abounded,
    Broke bonds wherein the silence wound it,
    Growing more articulate
    From hidden orchestras that mould it,
    Assumed a more majestic state,
    Labyrinthine flower unfolded
    Hourly by the breath of spring,
    Until the Harmony all glorious
    Rose on strong, expansive wing
    Dominating, pealed victorious,
    Erst budding, dim-divined thing;
    Now the elate exultant hearer
    Feels his heart arrived at home,
    While that pæan ever clearer
    With thunder-roll expands the dome;
    His heart, a royal-ported swan,
    Sails the sound, where wondrous vision
    As by some harbour-river shone--
    Dream-palace fronts, the world's derision,
    Deemed fancies vain! arow they flank
    The flower-terraced shore; but pinion
    Of the eagle-music sank;
    Fell from that sublime dominion.
    So a fountain fails and flows.
    The organised high strain reverted
    To formless murmur whence it rose,
    The hearer's heart dropped disconcerted,   
    The flower withered to a close;
    All the glowing glories faded,
    Common day oppressed the view,
    Dream-palace frontage blurred and shaded;
    And yet, ah yet, he hears anew
    Evolving order from confusion,
    The rhymic travail throbbing low,
    Reforming kosmos; no illusion,
    Whatever comrades named it so,
    For he knew the breathing chorus
    Not from him alone did flow;
    Like spring-tides of the ocean, bore us,
    Pealing at full-flood again,
    To goals beyond the primal strain,
    More vital even, rich, sonorous,
    Fed on failure, want and pain.
    He knew the anthem re-created
    Ever by the general soul,
    The human soul with nature mated,
    Who lives to organise the whole,
    That would fain evade control;
    So the God grows formed within us,
    And without us in the world;
    Till the spheral music win us,
    And our weary wings unfurled
    Young, unwearying, unhasting,
    Fulfil their high emprise, while resting.

       April 1893.

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« Reply #109 on: 15:00:22, 02-05-2007 »

Edward Thomas's "Rain", once set to music by Philip Grange:

Rain, midnight rain, nothing but the wild rain
On this bleak hut, and solitude, and me
Remembering again that I shall die
And neither hear the rain nor give it thanks
For washing me cleaner than I have been
Since I was born into this solitude.
Blessed are the dead that the rain rains upon:
But here I pray that none whom once I loved
Is dying to-night or lying still awake
Solitary, listening to the rain,
Either in pain or thus in sympathy
Helpless among the living and the dead,
Like a cold water among broken reeds,
Myriads of broken reeds all still and stiff,
Like me who have no love which this wild rain
Has not dissolved except the love of death,
If love it be for what is perfect and
Cannot, the tempest tells me, disappoint.
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« Reply #110 on: 01:17:57, 06-05-2007 »

A 'fascinating and seriously worthwhile' poem, as the estimable Mr Grew commented when earlier today, spurred on by his mention of sibyls, I posted it in another thread. As I noted there, it is a kind of sonnet.

It does not, I feel, look entirely 'well' on the computer screen, having some of the characteristic notational oddities of its maker Gerard Manley Hopkins, but those notational oddities are part of what makes it one of the most extraordinary poems I know, so I post it here and beg the reader's indulgence for its slightly untidy appearance. Some things just look better on the printed page.


SPELT FROM SIBYL'S LEAVES

Earnest, earthless, equal, attuneable, | vaulty, voluminous, — stupendous
Evening strains to be tíme's vást, | womb-of-all, home-of-all, hearse-of-all night.
Her fond yellow hornlight wound to the west, | her wild hollow hoarlight hung to the height
Waste; her earliest stars, earl-stars, | stárs principal, overbend us,
Fíre-féaturing heaven. For earth | her being has unbound, her dapple is at an end, a-
stray or aswarm, all throughther, in throngs; | self ín self steeded and páshed—qúite
Disremembering, dísmémbering | áll now. Heart, you round me right
With: Óur évening is over us; óur night | whélms, whélms, ánd will end us.

Only the beak-leaved boughs dragonish | damask the tool-smooth bleak light; black,
Ever so black on it. Óur tale, O óur oracle! | Lét life, wáned, ah lét life wind
Off hér once skéined stained véined variety | upon, áll on twó spools; párt, pen, páck
Now her áll in twó flocks, twó folds—black, white; | right, wrong; reckon but, reck but, mind
But thése two; wáre of a wórld where bút these | twó tell, each off the óther; of a rack
Where, selfwrung, selfstrung, sheathe- and shelterless, | thóughts agaínst thoughts ín groans grínd.
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« Reply #111 on: 06:42:48, 06-05-2007 »

This is not as good as the one Peter Grimes posted by Edward Thomas.

This is by Balmont and is called Fleeting Rain.

The fleeting rain, with its well-splinted flows,
Stroke at our roof and walls askew.
‘Have you, my girl, liked passed years, in the most?
What does your heart see in the future blue?’

The candle burns. The empty house, with sadness,
Supports the fatal image ‘Never more.’
And, in midnight, I have just one remembrance –
‘Twas not enough that I’ve kissed you before.   


Translated by Yevgeny Bonver, September, 2003

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« Reply #112 on: 08:33:01, 07-05-2007 »

Thank you for the Balmont, Madame T-P! Of course Rachmaninoff's are among the most beautiful settings of his work.

Why we wonder is his name sometimes transcribed as "Bal'mont" with an apostrophe after the Bal?
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« Reply #113 on: 08:43:06, 07-05-2007 »

Here is something by Digby Dolben, a talented boy who was a fag of Robert Bridges at Eton. He was born in Guernsey in 1848 and sadly drowned in a Luffenham pond at the age of nineteen in the course of an incident with Walter Prichard. Dolben is described as having been "exhibitionistic." After he was introduced to Hopkins Hopkins suffered "a great deal of perturbation".

The work is not terribly tightly constructed but there are many good moments. We confess we cannot quite construe the four lines beginning "I am very glad they were so fair". Perhaps there is some kind of misprint in the original; can any Member help?



                    A POEM WITHOUT A NAME (I)
           
            SURELY before the time my Sun has set:
            The evening had not come, it was but noon,
            The gladness passed from all my Pleasant Land;
            And, through the night that knows nor star nor moon,
            Among clean souls who all but Heaven forget,
            Alone remembering I wander on.
            They sing of triumph, and a Mighty Hand
            Locked fast in theirs through sorrow's Mystery;
            They sing of glimpses of another Land,
            Whose purples gleam through all their agony.
            But I--I did not choose like them, I chose
            The summer roses, and the red, red wine,
            The juice of earth's wild grapes, to drink with those
            Whose glories yet thro' saddest memories shine.
            I will not tell of them, of him who came;
            I will not tell you what men call my land.
            They speak half-choked in fogs of scorn and sin.
            I turn from all their pitiless human din
            To voices that can feel and understand.
               O ever-laughing rivers, sing his name
            To all your lilies;--tell it out, O chime,
            In hourly four-fold voices;--western breeze
            Among the avenues of scented lime
            Murmur it softly to the summer night:--
            O sunlight, water, music, flowers and trees,
            Heart-beats of nature's infinite delight,
            Love him for ever, all things beautiful!
            A little while it was he stayed with me,
            And taught me knowledge sweet and wonderful,
            And satisfied my soul with poetry:
            But soon, too soon, there sounded from above
            Innumerable clapping of white hands,
            And countless laughing voices sang of love,
            And called my friend away to other lands.
            Well--I am very glad they were so fair,
            For whom the lightening east and morning skies;
            For me the sunset of his golden hair,
            Fading among the hills of Paradise.
               Weed-grown is all my garden of delight;--
            Most tired, most cold without the Eden-gate,
            With eyes still good for ache, tho' not for sight,
            Among the briers and thorns I weep and wait.
            Now first I catch the meaning of a strife,
            A great soul-battle fought for death or life.
            Nearing me come the rumours of a war,
            And blood and dust sweep cloudy from afar,
            And, surging round, the sobbing of the sea
            Choked with the weepings of humanity.
               Alas! no armour have I fashioned me,
            And, having lived on honey in the past,
            Have gained no strength. From the unfathomed sea
            I draw no food, for all the nets I cast.
            I am not strong enough to fight beneath,
            I am not clean enough to mount above;
            Oh let me dream, although to dream is death,
            Beside the hills where last I saw my Love.
           
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« Reply #114 on: 08:46:47, 07-05-2007 »

Mr. Sydney Grew,
Thank you for your interest in Russian poetry, Russian music and Russian language. Thank you for your interest in my post.
Russian language has two L sounds. One is hard L and the other is soft. Some times they ingnore it in translation, and some times They put ' sign.
This is a capital letter L in Russian with a soft sign next to it. ЛЬ. Balmont has soft sign in his name: Бальмонт. The first letter is B then A then L and an indication that it is a soft one and m o n t. Russian alphabet is not that difficult or even different from Latin. The language is difficult to learn. I know a few English people that have perfect Russian (they specialize in Chechov's writing).

Please allow me to say that I enjoy your posts and always read them, though many of them are controversial. Usually your posts generate a lot of responses and good discussions.
Please forgive my imperfect English.
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PS You know Rachmaninoff Romances (Songs) very well. It impresses me very much.
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« Reply #115 on: 10:10:11, 07-05-2007 »

Do any of you poetry fans listen to poetry read on disc?

I have just renewed my aquaintance with a favourite old recording of mine: T S Eliot reading 'Four Quartets',recorded by HMV in I think 1947 and  presumably in Studio 3 at Abbey Road,first issued on 78s then on an LP and now on a Harper Collins CD.

Eliot of course isn't a professional speaker and doesn't 'act 'the words ,but there's something very special about hearing the poet read his own  verse.



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« Reply #116 on: 11:52:31, 07-05-2007 »

Saturday Review on Radio 4 had a discussion on Auden reading his own work "in performance" and they mentioned in passing a recording of Eliot reading from the Wasteland. On "listen again" if interested.
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« Reply #117 on: 15:47:51, 07-05-2007 »

Does anyone recall a programme broadcast some years ago in which Tennyson read The Charge of the Light Brigade?

(...and, more controversially, a R3 programme I have mentioned on here before in which Michelangelo was heard reciting some of his own...)  Huh
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« Reply #118 on: 00:19:08, 08-05-2007 »

I need to make some time to savour some of the other stuff posted here recently, but may I pass this link on to you. A mixed bill of fare with the centrepiece (see right of the panel) of Walt Whitmans' "Song of Myself"
performed three tenors style (one of whom is the late Alan Ginsberg). 35 minutes of sheer intensity.

http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2007/05/05/index.html

p.s link doesnt work directly-if you open the main page via error not found you can follow the link 'about the May 5th show'
to the archive page as above.
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« Reply #119 on: 00:24:34, 08-05-2007 »

Has anyone else heard WB Yeats reading his own verse? I personally don't like it but it's fascinating to hear - a high voice that almost sings it.
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