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Author Topic: Poetry Appreciation Thread.  (Read 19823 times)
George Garnett
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« Reply #45 on: 16:13:20, 21-04-2007 »

We must have at least one Shakespeare sonnet, so here is my particular favourite. Probably a predictable choice but it's just about perfect in every respect.



That time of year thou may'st in me behold,
When yellow leaves, or none, or few do hang
Upon those boughs which shake against the cold,
Bare ruin'd quires, where late the sweet birds sang.
In me thou see'st the twilight of such day,
As after sunset fadeth in the West,
Which by and by black night doth take away,
Death's second self that seals up all in rest.
In me thou see'st the glowing of such fire,
That on the ashes of his youth doth lie,
As the death bed, whereon it must expire,
Consum'd with that which it was nourished by.
This thou perceiv'st, which makes thy love more strong,
To love that well, which thou must leave ere long.   
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« Reply #46 on: 16:22:30, 21-04-2007 »

That's the one I'd have chosen, George - that and Sonnet 116, "Let me not to the marriage of true minds".
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« Reply #47 on: 16:37:48, 21-04-2007 »

I think you've typoed 'evanescent' in the 2nd system, btw.
Ah, I was assuming that's because he wanted an s both at the end of the first note and the beginning of the second. Suppose we'd better clear that up then. Aaron?

Typo indeed.  Thanks to the crack editing team of r3ok for catching it. 
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« Reply #48 on: 07:53:05, 22-04-2007 »

I think you've typoed 'evanescent' in the 2nd system, btw.
Ah, I was assuming that's because he wanted an s both at the end of the first note and the beginning of the second. Suppose we'd better clear that up then. Aaron?
Typo indeed.  Thanks to the crack editing team of r3ok for catching it. 
Which one shall I cross out then?
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« Reply #49 on: 10:17:13, 22-04-2007 »


It was set by the 19-year-old (I think) Lukas Foss in The Prairie.

t_i_n, talking of prairies, I'm fond of this little Emily Dickinson gem:

To make a prairie it takes a clover and one bee,— 
One clover, and a bee, 
And revery. 
The revery alone will do 
If bees are few.

Any idea who has set thatWink
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« Reply #50 on: 10:27:05, 22-04-2007 »

Thank you for that wonderful Housman poem, Mary, now printed off and being learnt to add to the very select few that I can keep in my brain at any given time.

It prompts, and I hope you'll forgive this, another quickie from Wendy Cope:


Another Unfortunate Choice

I think I am in love with A. E. Housman,
Which puts me in a worse-than-usual fix.
No woman ever stood a chance with Housman
And he's been dead since 1936. 
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« Reply #51 on: 10:36:51, 22-04-2007 »

Search under every veil
for the pale eyes, pale
lips of a sick child,
in each doorway glimpse
her reluctant limbs
for whom no kindness is,
to whom caress and kiss
come nightly more amiss,
whose hand no gentle hand
touches, whose eyes withstand
compassion. Say: Done, past
help, preordained waste.
Say: We know by the dead
they mourn, their bloodshed,
the maimed who are the free.
We willed it, we
Say: Who am I to doubt?
But every vein cries out.

(Basil Bunting - from First Book of Odes)
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« Reply #52 on: 11:02:28, 22-04-2007 »

Basil Bunting is a wonderful poet, Ian.


On the Fly-leaf of Pound's Cantos

There are the Alps. What is there to say about them?
They don't make sense. Fatal glaciers, crags cranks climb,
jumbled boulder and weed, pasture and boulder, scree,
et l'on entend, maybe, le refrain joyeux et leger.
Who knows what the ice will have scraped on the rock it is smoothing?

There they are, you will have to go a long way round
if you want to avoid them,
It takes some getting used to. There are the Alps,
fools! Sit down and wait for them to crumble!

Basil Bunting
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Thank you for the music ...


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« Reply #53 on: 13:36:46, 22-04-2007 »

"Better'n watching paint dry" - Phyllis Tyne
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« Reply #54 on: 13:41:04, 22-04-2007 »

Thank you for that wonderful Housman poem, Mary, now printed off and being learnt to add to the very select few that I can keep in my brain at any given time.

It prompts, and I hope you'll forgive this, another quickie from Wendy Cope:


Another Unfortunate Choice

I think I am in love with A. E. Housman,
Which puts me in a worse-than-usual fix.
No woman ever stood a chance with Housman
And he's been dead since 1936. 

Oh, that's wonderful, and I didn't know it. I must read more Wendy Cope. I too have a regrettable habit of being in love with dead homosexuals.
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« Reply #55 on: 22:06:37, 22-04-2007 »

Don't know if it's ok to include foreign-language poems, but here's a particular favourite:

Ernst ist der Frühling, seine Träume
Sind traurig, jede Blume schaut
Von Schmerz bewegt, es bebt geheime
Wehmut im Nachtigallenlaut.

O lächle nicht, geliebte Schöne,
So freundlich heiter, lächle nicht!
O, weine lieber, eine Träne
Küß ich so gern dir vom Gesicht.

(Heinrich Heine - from Neue Gedichte, also set by Hugo Wolf)
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« Reply #56 on: 10:23:11, 23-04-2007 »

It's so difficult, with poems that have been set to music, to separate the two. Here's a gorgeous, very simple poem by Verlaine, set by Fauré:

La lune blanche
Luit dans les bois;
De chaque branche
Part une voix
Sous la ramée...

O bien-aimée.

L'étang reflète,
Profond miroir,
La silhouette
Du saule noir
Où le vent pleure...

Rêvons, c'est l'heure.

Un vaste et tendre
Apaisement
Semble descendre
Du firmament
Que l'astre irise...

C'est l'heure exquise.


I can hear the music all the time, and I've learnt so much poetry from music. It can be deceptive - Schubert could have set Spike Milligan and it would have sounded sublime.
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« Reply #57 on: 10:26:41, 23-04-2007 »

I can hear the music all the time, and I've learnt so much poetry from music. It can be deceptive - Schubert could have set Spike Milligan and it would have sounded sublime.

This thought does stimulate ideas for a parodistic work, which at some point I may attempt and share with members here Wink
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« Reply #58 on: 10:28:50, 23-04-2007 »

Ian, Do you know any other poems in German? I liked the one you posted. I have limited German, but no French at all.
However, I have French friends and I sent Mary's poem to a friend. I hope she will enjoy it. Thank you, Mary.
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« Reply #59 on: 10:46:02, 23-04-2007 »

Here's one, t-p, from Rilke's Sonette an Orpheus:

Sei allem Abschied voran, als wäre er hinter
dir, wie der Winter, der eben geht.
Denn unter Wintern ist einer so endlos Winter,
dass, überwinternd, dein Herz überhaupt übersteht.

Sei immer tot in Eurydike -, singender steige,
preisender steige zurück in den reinen Bezug.
Hier, unter Schwindenden, sei, im Reiche der Neige,
sei ein klingendes Glas, das sich im Klang schon zerschlug.

Sei - und wisse zugleich des Nicht-Seins Bedingung,
den unendlichen Grund deiner innigen Schwingung,
dass du sie völlig vollziehst dieses einzige Mal.

Zu dem gebrauchten sowohl, wie zum dumpfen und stummen
Vorrat der vollen Natur, den unsäglichen Summen,
zähle dich jubelnd hinzu und vernichte die Zahl.
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