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Author Topic: EMBARRASSING, CRINGE-WORTHY TITLES  (Read 4447 times)
oliver sudden
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« Reply #15 on: 11:52:11, 08-08-2007 »

Well, that's just showing off.
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« Reply #16 on: 12:29:17, 08-08-2007 »

I bet he had an Osborne after that...
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« Reply #17 on: 12:31:48, 08-08-2007 »

I bet he had an Osborne after that...

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« Reply #18 on: 12:40:37, 08-08-2007 »

Musicians Wrestle Everywhere (Elliott Carter's take on orchestral players' tussles with their trade union)
An intriguing interpretation of a Judith Weir title, Alistair. Wink
Albeit a title which itself came into being before Ms Weir was even born...

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« Reply #19 on: 12:43:07, 08-08-2007 »

A composer friend of mine has a category of titles which I think could count as a subset of the category proposed by martle. These are titles in which the composer makes a demonstrably untrue statement:
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Nigel Osborne - I am Goya
Gabriel Jackson - I am the rose of Sharon
Robert Saxton - I will awake the dawn


I'd like to propose this as the opposite case, which although surprising is completely true:
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Benedict Mason - spots of oil and petrol on roads are sometimes held to be places where a rainbow once stood
I don't think that's embarrassing or cringeworthy, though some may beg to disagree!

My Father Knew Charles Ives falls into one of those categories...
The former, since that senior member of the Adams Family did NOT know Charles Ives; perhaps Elliott Carter should after all have written a piece in response and called it My Son's Father DID know Charles Ives, but one can see why he'd have thought better of it...

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« Reply #20 on: 12:44:35, 08-08-2007 »

[quote time is now from the 'unfortunate titles' thread]I seem to recall one of Jonathan Harvey's Buddhist pieces including the line "I have come through 10,000 vaginas".
...and still have some energy left to compose...(Huh)...

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« Reply #21 on: 12:45:03, 08-08-2007 »

that senior member of the Adams Family

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« Reply #22 on: 12:47:03, 08-08-2007 »

that senior member of the Adams Family


Didn't know that Sibelius had any cringe-worthy titles...

Whereabouts in the Cotswolds is the village of Cringeworthy, anyway?

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« Reply #23 on: 13:06:12, 08-08-2007 »

Musicians Wrestle Everywhere (Elliott Carter's take on orchestral players' tussles with their trade union)
An intriguing interpretation of a Judith Weir title, Alistair. Wink
Albeit a title which itself came into being before Ms Weir was even born...
Indeed, although not (contrary to MacRaeceived opinion) due to Mr Carter's father-in-law ...
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« Reply #24 on: 13:07:39, 08-08-2007 »

I'm going to have to sacrifice any clever points I may still have - what the heck is this wrestling title you all keep talking about?
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« Reply #25 on: 13:09:30, 08-08-2007 »

[quote time is now from the 'unfortunate titles' thread]I seem to recall one of Jonathan Harvey's Buddhist pieces including the line "I have come through 10,000 vaginas".
...and still have some energy left to compose...(Huh)...
Well, the sort of 'coming through' that JH was thinking of ought to be immensely energising - he was, I believe, talking about reincarnation, despite the potential misinterpretations which he really ought to have foreseen ... Undecided
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« Reply #26 on: 13:15:02, 08-08-2007 »

I'm going to have to sacrifice any clever points I may still have - what the heck is this wrestling title you all keep talking about?
http://www.repeatafterus.com/title.php?i=8369

http://www.kennedy-center.org/calendar/?fuseaction=composition&composition_id=2857

http://www.chesternovello.com/Default.aspx?TabId=2432&State_3041=2&workId_3041=2746

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« Reply #27 on: 13:33:34, 08-08-2007 »

despite the potential misinterpretations which he really ought to have foreseen ... Undecided

t-i-n, if he didn't foresee *that* misinterpretation, then my uncle's a 4-wheel drive Robin Reliant. Or he is.

I bet he had an Osborne after that...

rm  Cheesy

thankyou so much for introducing this new word into my lexicon.


As for titles, I always thought it was a bit embarassing that Stravinsky didn't know how to spell 'write-off'.
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« Reply #28 on: 14:01:22, 08-08-2007 »

As for titles, I always thought it was a bit embarassing that Stravinsky didn't know how to spell 'write-off'.
Sacre Dieu! Was his spelling really that bad?! Wink
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« Reply #29 on: 14:10:40, 08-08-2007 »


Huh.  I'd not heard of the Judith Weir piece (although, not being English, I'm allowed to have barely heard of Judith Weir full stop.)  The Carter is one of his neo-classical-ish pre-First Quartet pieces, and it's always struck me as kind of lame.
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