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Author Topic: EMBARRASSING, CRINGE-WORTHY TITLES  (Read 4447 times)
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« on: 21:56:31, 07-08-2007 »

Well, I bet all the composers here have one or two lurking in their drawers(!). I noticed one of them owning up to it on the Religion thread. Step forward, Evan Johnson, with -

Scesis Onomaton

A stonker, for sure. Anyone else care to chip in? And not just the composers out there – any titles by anyone at all are fair game.

I’ll hold my hand up to: Lamentations and Rituals. Uh?? (Well, I was an undergrad  at the time, like Evan…)  Embarrassed

And I really hope Milton Babbitt secretly blushes at The Joy of More Sextets. (He never would in public.)
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« Reply #1 on: 21:59:02, 07-08-2007 »

Veronika Lenz of blessed sock memory once drew my attention to the following title of Toru Takemitsu:

And Then I Knew 'Twas Wind.
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« Reply #2 on: 22:08:16, 07-08-2007 »

Well, I bet all the composers here have one or two lurking in their drawers(!). I noticed one of them owning up to it on the Religion thread. Step forward, Evan Johnson, with -

Scesis Onomaton

A stonker, for sure. Anyone else care to chip in? And not just the composers out there – any titles by anyone at all are fair game.

I’ll hold my hand up to: Lamentations and Rituals. Uh?? (Well, I was an undergrad  at the time, like Evan…)  Embarrassed

And I really hope Milton Babbitt secretly blushes at The Joy of More Sextets. (He never would in public.)


Thank you, thank you.  Thank you.  That's very kind.

Actually I find just about all of Babbitt's titles cringe-worthy and embarrassing, but if they help point people to the element of humor, wit and joy in his work than I suppose it's worth it.
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« Reply #3 on: 22:09:52, 07-08-2007 »

More than one Russian composer has produced SATB arrangements of the folksong

Over my Urals
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« Reply #4 on: 22:28:12, 07-08-2007 »

My score of Tannhauser is in the Novello's Original Octavo Edition, cloth, gilt, price three shillings and sixpence.  Inside the back cover it lists Novello's other offerings of Oratorios, Cantatas, Odes, Masses &c, including:

Myles B Foster:  The Bonnie Fishwives (female voices)
F W Galpin: Ye Olde English Pastimes
E Ouseley Gilbert:  Santa Claus and his Comrades (operetta, sol fa)
C Holland:  After the Skirmish
H Festing Jones:  King Bulbous (operetta)
C H Lloyd:  The Longbeards' Saga (male voices)
C H Lloyd: Sir Ogle and the Lady Elsie
F W Markull:  Roland's Horn (male voices)
 
One feels that there is an entire genre of Victorian vocal music that is long overdue a revival.


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« Reply #5 on: 22:34:48, 07-08-2007 »

20th century dutch composer pressed out "Just Like A Fart in the Snow" for solo accordion, featured at the Gaudeamus competition as a conditional piece some 5/6 years ago,

another spine chiller was "Spiegel Eye" a piece performed by the Ensemble Modern Academy, for chamber ensemble, last october (i swear, no joke).

unfortunately couldn't dredge up the names of evoked composers.

oh, lest I forget: 'Defloration' by Wolfgang Rihm
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« Reply #6 on: 22:40:49, 07-08-2007 »

oh, lest I forget: 'Defloration' by Wolfgang Rihm

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« Reply #7 on: 23:32:17, 07-08-2007 »

How long has this been goin' on? (George Gershwin's little known but significant response after turning off Sorabji's illicitly recorded Glasgow première of Opus Clavicembalisticum after Fuga II).

Symphonie Cévenole (d'Indy's musical depiction of an incompleted golf course).

Arlecchino (Busoni's description of a north west Welsh village)

Musicians Wrestle Everywhere (Elliott Carter's take on orchestral players' tussles with their trade union)

A Survivor from Warsaw (Schönberg's tribute to all those who managed to emerge from listening to Mr Addinsell's "Concerto" unscathed).

Scarbo (Ravel's incomplete and "rough" draft impression of a Yorkshire seaside town).

That's my 6-pack for now...

Best,

Alistair

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« Reply #8 on: 23:41:04, 07-08-2007 »

More head-scratching than cringeworthy is a work produced by my beloved Stephen Storace, of which sadly neither music nor libretto remains:

The English Fleet in 1391
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« Reply #9 on: 23:46:10, 07-08-2007 »

The book Wagner took the Flying Dutchman story comes from: Aus den Memoiren des Herrn von Schnabelewopski.

Such a shame Wagner didn't stick with that.
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« Reply #10 on: 10:58:46, 08-08-2007 »

Musicians Wrestle Everywhere (Elliott Carter's take on orchestral players' tussles with their trade union)
An intriguing interpretation of a Judith Weir title, Alistair. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: 10:58:56, 08-08-2007 »

A composer friend of mine has a category of titles which I think could count as a subset of the category proposed by martle. These are titles in which the composer makes a demonstrably untrue statement:
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Nigel Osborne - I am Goya
Gabriel Jackson - I am the rose of Sharon
Robert Saxton - I will awake the dawn


I'd like to propose this as the opposite case, which although surprising is completely true:
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Benedict Mason - spots of oil and petrol on roads are sometimes held to be places where a rainbow once stood
I don't think that's embarrassing or cringeworthy, though some may beg to disagree!
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« Reply #12 on: 11:09:40, 08-08-2007 »

A composer friend of mine has a category of titles which I think could count as a subset of the category proposed by martle. These are titles in which the composer makes a demonstrably untrue statement:
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Nigel Osborne - I am Goya
Gabriel Jackson - I am the rose of Sharon
Robert Saxton - I will awake the dawn


I'd like to propose this as the opposite case, which although surprising is completely true:
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Benedict Mason - spots of oil and petrol on roads are sometimes held to be places where a rainbow once stood
I don't think that's embarrassing or cringeworthy, though some may beg to disagree!

My Father Knew Charles Ives falls into one of those categories...

And yes, I have already cringed at the Mason title, whether it be worthy of it or not.
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« Reply #13 on: 11:23:55, 08-08-2007 »

Someone once pointed out to me that Osborne is an anagram of Sorenob...
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« Reply #14 on: 11:40:01, 08-08-2007 »

[quote time is now from the 'unfortunate titles' thread]I seem to recall one of Jonathan Harvey's Buddhist pieces including the line "I have come through 10,000 vaginas".[/quote]
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