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Author Topic: Menuhin the conductor  (Read 171 times)
Tony Watson
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« on: 20:10:22, 08-10-2007 »

The other day after my amateur orchestra rehearsal I remarked to a fellow player that if I had enough money I would like to hire a professional orchestra and conduct them in a programme of my own choice. The reply I got I was something like: “They wouldn’t take any notice of you. They’d just play it the way they think it ought to go – much as orchestras did when Yehudi Menuhin conducted.”

I dare say he was right about the first part, but the second? I’ve got Menuhin conducting Schubert’s 3rd symphony playing right now and it doesn’t sound too bad.

Old Crackerjack joke and very weak pun: Peter Glaze to Lesley Crowther: “That’s an old violin you’ve got.” Crowther: “Yes, I gave Yehudi my new one.” I don’t think many of the brownies and cub scouts who made up the audience got it.

So how does Menuhin’s reputation as a conductor (or even violinist) stand these days? Or perhaps you would like to suggest an orchestral piece that you would particularly like to conduct.
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« Reply #1 on: 21:55:51, 08-10-2007 »

I only saw him conduct once, the Halle in about 1994 (?) - Beethoven Egmont Overture, Elgar Symphony No 2 and something else I don't remember. I got the impression he was more a hindrance than a help in the Beethoven (at the joins), but there was much in the Elgar that was very special, and I do remember thinking of the link between that moment and one over sixty years earlier when he had recorded the Violin Concerto with the composer.
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« Reply #2 on: 22:57:20, 08-10-2007 »

He conducted a group I was in once for Britten's Frank Bridge Variations, and Beethoven 7, I think.  I remember he got lost in the Britten, and we reached a change of time sig a bar before him - it completely threw the string quartet and we were lucky it didn't fall completely apart.  (YM looked very surprised when we finished before him).

In rehearsals he was quite dithery, and had to keep stopping for a banana (to replenish energy levels).  To be honest, he wasn't that inspirational either, and I wasn't that keen on his Beethoven.

A very sad state of affairs - as a player there were some great recordings.  I grew up with one of his Brahms VCs, and I have recently fallen in love with his Elgar VC (the one roslynmuse mentions).

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« Reply #3 on: 23:48:01, 08-10-2007 »

This thread brings back a sad memory for me.

I attended a performance in Glasgow in 1992 in which BBCSO's programme comprised RVW's Wasps Overture, Mozart's 40th Symphony and the world premičre (and, to date, only public performance) of Ronald Stevenson's Violin Concerto. The concerto had been commissioned some years earlier by Menuhin with a view to his premičring it; in the event, this concert was conducted by Menuhin who on that occasion deferred to one of his students, Hu Kun, to play its solo part. The concerto is of a little over 50 minutes' duration. The first half of the concert clearly evidenced BBCSO performing two works, of which it obviously knew at least one very well, almost in spite of the "direction" from the podium. The second half might have been little better than a fiasco had it not been for the corporate determination of the orchestra to try to do justice to what is one of Stevenson's most affecting works, for the conductor might as well have been on another planet most of the time and the soloist was sadly most notable for his ineffectuality in a work that demanded not only violinistic virtuoisty but a decent grasp of quite a few different violin playing traditions. Only in its final few minutes did Menuhin seem suddenly to emerge from what appeared to be some kind of disengaged stupor to pull himself together and endeavour to draw this work to its exciting close. That Menuhin had in the past been an excellent musician has never been in doubt, but anyone present on that occasion who had not already heard the best of his much earlier achievements as a violinist would not likely have guessed anything of the kind from his desultory and careless treatment of this ambitious work composed specially for him. I admit that this was the only occasion on which I observed Menuhin conducting live; I am nevertheless as glad to confirm that I've never experienced a repeat of this kind of performance as I am sad to have to say that I've yet to hear Stevenson's Violin Concerto played as it should be.

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Alistair
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« Reply #4 on: 21:12:05, 09-10-2007 »

I never heard him conduct in the flesh (plenty of times as soloist) but think his records of Elgar have something special about them.  I have a particular affection for his late-ish disc of the Enigma Variations with the RPO on their own label.  I have no idea whether it was the orchestra that interpreted the piece despite Menuhin or his direction but the performance particularly of Nimrod is utterly extraordinary and quite the most impassioned performance I have ever heard, this is perhaps due in part to a recording which seems to suffer a slightly odd level switch at a key moment but I would not want to take anything away from the strings of the orchestra.  Recording quirk or did something extraordinary happen under Menuhin's direction?  Love to hear from an RPO player about the session.
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