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Author Topic: Piano Transcriptions - suggestions!  (Read 389 times)
autoharp
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« Reply #30 on: 19:32:53, 12-11-2008 »

This is all tremendously useful (and interesting) stuff, folks. Many thanks. And keep it coming!

Given that we are all vastly knowledgable etc and endless lists of examples may not be the most effective assistance, some restrictions would be useful. We can marvel at Godowsky's efforts, but in the long run, those of Grainger (as Descombes suggested) may be more pertinent. Ancient or modern? You'll say "both", I bet . . .

What about all those versions of the Minute Waltz? Many were recorded by Fredric Ullen - Joseffy, Reger, Godowsky, Sorabji etc - and there's one (not in that collection) by Finnissy . . .
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« Reply #31 on: 19:47:14, 12-11-2008 »

Well, I'm enjoying all these lists for their own sake of course. But in very practical terms, it's only a one-week course and experience dictates that only about 4 mornings-worth of material will make the cut. On the other hand, one thing I like to do on such courses is take a 'library' of scores and recordings down there to make available to the students to sift through 'at their leisure' (although they'll have precious little of that). So, no real restrictions. Very interested in whacked-out modern 'takes' - like RB's Sciarinno idea, or the Finnissy/Gershwin 'arrangements'.
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« Reply #32 on: 19:48:56, 12-11-2008 »

Good grief. Turfers, why the nose? Please tell me - why the nose?  Cry Cry
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« Reply #33 on: 19:51:16, 12-11-2008 »

Uh...oops -- is it the nose of someone infamous whom I don't know?

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« Reply #34 on: 19:54:18, 12-11-2008 »

Who nose?

(Coat already on)
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« Reply #35 on: 20:00:51, 12-11-2008 »

Uh...oops -- is it the nose of someone infamous whom I don't know?

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It's just that you don't nose where it's been.

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« Reply #36 on: 20:59:00, 12-11-2008 »

Why do you people even bother taking OFF your coats? Cheesy
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« Reply #37 on: 21:01:28, 12-11-2008 »

Why do you people even bother taking OFF your coats? Cheesy

OBVIOUSLY because otherwise you don't feel the benefit.
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« Reply #38 on: 21:36:09, 12-11-2008 »

 Cheesy
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« Reply #39 on: 21:49:38, 12-11-2008 »

This is all tremendously useful (and interesting) stuff, folks. Many thanks. And keep it coming!

Given that we are all vastly knowledgable etc and endless lists of examples may not be the most effective assistance, some restrictions would be useful. We can marvel at Godowsky's efforts, but in the long run, those of Grainger (as Descombes suggested) may be more pertinent. Ancient or modern? You'll say "both", I bet . . .

What about all those versions of the Minute Waltz? Many were recorded by Fredric Ullen - Joseffy, Reger, Godowsky, Sorabji etc - and there's one (not in that collection) by Finnissy . . .
Perhaps FU (pardon the expression!) didn't know about MF's MW at the time. For the record, I once wrote to Mr Parsons (Nicholas, not Michael) about the possibility of using one or more of those items from FU's Got A Minute CD as intro music for at least one series of BBC Radio 4's long-running panel game Just A Minute ("JAM" to the cognoscenti on the inside) but the polite answer I received deferred to the memory of the late Ian Messiter (who thought up the game) and whose son Malcolm (the oboist who was a contemporary of mine at RCM, London) was probably the person to whom any such enquiries should be addressed. I've almost certainly done many more stupid things even than that in my time and "JAM tomorrow" in that proposed form has, as one may notice, never materialised. Ah, well...
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« Reply #40 on: 23:37:23, 12-11-2008 »

I don't know if this will be of any interest or not, but on Monday's In Tune Jonathan Plowright was playing and talking about a piano transcription of the Bach cantata Die Seele ruht in Jesu Haenden (no. 127) made by Walter Rummel (a friend of Debussy and a member of the nazi party!) who apparently transcribed 20 odd Bach cantatas in very different ways; some very lush, some pared down to levels of a two-part invention.

The one he performed sounded like a very melancholically romantic interpretation of the original to me (perhaps partly the performance also) and didn't particularly appeal, but I can't say I was really in the right situation to give it a fair hearing.

 The programme is here with appropriate timings displayed, and I see there was also a Bach cello suite piano transcription and Pictures at an Exhibition earlier in the programme also.
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« Reply #41 on: 23:44:43, 12-11-2008 »

I don't normally listen to In Tune, but I heard that Pictures at an Exhibition actually - it sounded rather good, and surprisingly fierce (why surprisingly? oh, I don't know, just that I heard a bit of the interview with the pianist beforehand and somehow formed a rather negative judgment of him which wasn't borne out by his playing Roll Eyes Embarrassed).

But maybe it's been discussed already on this forum - I see there's a 'Pictures' thread going, but it's one of those 'I'm not opening that thread because I'll feel compelled to follow it on a thrice-daily basis if I do' threads ...
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« Reply #42 on: 23:55:21, 12-11-2008 »

On the Watch and Listen thread, I had posted a version of the Erlkoenig arranged for solo violin by Ernst. Here's another version, very different from the first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMBZS6iAp2I

I'd like to see a solo cello version of Pictures at an Exhibition! Or a melodica arrangement of the Rheingold overture.
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« Reply #43 on: 23:58:24, 12-11-2008 »

I'd like to see a solo cello version of Pictures at an Exhibition!

Better re-title it An exhibitionist at the pictures.
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« Reply #44 on: 06:50:46, 13-11-2008 »

I'd like to see a solo cello version of Pictures at an Exhibition!
Then may I humbly suggest that the most effective way to satisfy your apparent desire may be to write one yourself (and then get Rohan de Saram to perform it)? Stranger things may have happened, one may suppose. Anyway, aren't we departing rather too much from the subject of PIANO transcriptions?...
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