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martle
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« on: 21:55:45, 11-11-2008 »
Next summer, I'll be teaching a one-week course at Dartington Summer School with the estimable pianist, Stephen Gutman. It's for composers, and will be called something like 'Writing for Piano: the art of transcription'. I've done a few such courses over the years with Stephen, and the idea is that we look at a bunch of examples each day and the composers work on a piece during the week, to be performed by SG in a concert at the end.

Question: I have loads of ideas of my own, but what suggestions do people have for really groovy piano transcriptions/ arangements/ 'paraphrases' etc.? This may be where Jonathan comes into his own!! I want to do a lot of Liszt, for some reason. And the Finnissy/Gershwin stuff. And, to bring it into the scope of recent discussion, Ravel.

Also, for those composition teachers amongst you, please encourage your students to apply!  Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: 22:36:03, 11-11-2008 »
Quote from: martle on 21:55:45, 11-11-2008
Next summer, I'll be teaching a one-week course at Dartington Summer School with the estimable pianist, Stephen Gutman. It's for composers, and will be called something like 'Writing for Piano: the art of transcription'. I've done a few such courses over the years with Stephen, and the idea is that we look at a bunch of examples each day and the composers work on a piece during the week, to be performed by SG in a concert at the end.

Question: I have loads of ideas of my own, but what suggestions do people have for really groovy piano transcriptions/ arangements/ 'paraphrases' etc.? This may be where Jonathan comes into his own!! I want to do a lot of Liszt, for some reason. And the Finnissy/Gershwin stuff. And, to bring it into the scope of recent discussion, Ravel.

Also, for those composition teachers amongst you, please encourage your students to apply!  Smiley

Hey, that's a supercool idea.  Depending on what the definition of "transcription" is meant to encompass, I'd certainly suggest Kurtág's Bach.  Also, how about the Second Viennese School stuff, the things that Berg and Webern did of Schoenberg's, or the various vocal scores they worked on together?
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« Reply #2 on: 22:39:59, 11-11-2008 »
Bodacious, Evan. In my book, 'transcription' can mean almost anything -  extant material, written up for the piano. It's a course about piano writing as much as anything else. Love the 2nd Viennese idea - tanks.
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« Reply #3 on: 22:50:15, 11-11-2008 »
What exactly are you asking for?

A. Extant piano music that is a transcription from non-piano music?

B. Non-piano music that lends itself particularly well to transcription for piano?

C. Extant transcriptions from piano to non-piano?

D. Piano music that lends itself particularly well to transcription for non-piano?

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« Reply #4 on: 22:52:10, 11-11-2008 »
Can't get much more groovy than Grainger!  What about the Rosenkavalier Ramble or Blithe Bells?
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« Reply #5 on: 22:54:36, 11-11-2008 »
Quote from: Turfan Fragment on 22:50:15, 11-11-2008
What exactly are you asking for?

A. Extant piano music that is a transcription from non-piano music?

B. Non-piano music that lends itself particularly well to transcription for piano?

C. Extant transcriptions from piano to non-piano?

D. Piano music that lends itself particularly well to transcription for non-piano?

E. Alluv the abuv

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« Reply #6 on: 23:38:06, 11-11-2008 »
I once transcribed Schumann's Gesänge der Frühe, 5 piano pieces, for 12 solo strings. I don't suppose that's what you had in mind, but I'd be happy to send it to you.
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« Reply #7 on: 23:48:21, 11-11-2008 »
Sciarrino's Anamorfosi is a piano arrangement of Jeux d'eau and Singin' in the rain simultaneously.
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« Reply #8 on: 23:56:15, 11-11-2008 »
Didn't Mark-Andre Hamelin do something similar with 3 of Chopin's etudes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhgOh8mmefQ
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« Reply #9 on: 23:59:23, 11-11-2008 »
Quote from: Turfan Fragment on 23:56:15, 11-11-2008
Didn't Mark-Andre Hamelin do something similar with 3 of Chopin's etudes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhgOh8mmefQ

Leopold Godowsky did a few double Chopin etudes, which I dare say is where Hamelin got the idea from.
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« Reply #10 on: 00:02:24, 12-11-2008 »
Hamelin does give due credit to Godoffsky, even if I did not.
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« Reply #11 on: 00:50:21, 12-11-2008 »
I expect Sciarrino got the idea from Godeffsci too. Not.

Does anyone else have trouble placing Sciarrino in an alphabetical list of composers?
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« Reply #12 on: 09:12:17, 12-11-2008 »
Quote from: time_is_now on 00:50:21, 12-11-2008
I expect Sciarrino got the idea from Godeffsci too. Not.

Does anyone else have trouble placing Sciarrino in an alphabetical list of composers?
Just after Schostakowitsch, obviously. Wink

(I have lots of trouble with Sciarrino but I'm glad to say not that.)
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« Reply #13 on: 09:59:18, 12-11-2008 »
Hi martle,
Well, as you predicted, here I am with some suggestions (of course, some by Liszt!):

Liszt - Reminiscences of Lucia di Lammermoor (S398 - full of runs, trills and swapping of the hands)
Liszt - The transcription of Tschekkenmarsch from Russlan und Ludmilla (S407, use version 2 as it's better - it's got some very beautiful sections interspursed with loud bits - it's actually my favourite Liszt transcription)
Liszt - Ernani - Paraphrase de Concert (S432 - has some amazing arpeggios in the right hand which sound incredible)
Liszt - Any of the Schubert song transcriptions
Liszt - Fantasy on Reinzi (S439 - a great piece, not often recorded and really, really powerful!)
Liszt - Two Transcriptions from Raff's King Alfred (S421 nos.1 and 2 - the first is charming and the second, of the march is full of runs)
Liszt - Any of the Beethoven Symphony transcriptions
Liszt - any of the Berlioz transcriptions (especially the Benediction et Sermet from Benvenuto Cellini S396)
Alkan - Transcription of Mozart's Andante from the 8th quartet (K464)
Thalberg - Paraphrase on Home, Sweet, Home
Gottschalk - Paraphrase on Il Travatore
Tausig - Fantasy on themes from Halka, Op.2
Godowsky - Passacaglia and Fugue on Schubert's Unfinished Symphony

and finally my own paraphrase on Le Chasseur Maudit by Cesar Franck

Hope this helps!  Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: 10:11:53, 12-11-2008 »
Quote from: Jonathan on 09:59:18, 12-11-2008
Hope this helps!  Cheesy


It does, Jonathan - as predicted! Ta!
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