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reiner_torheit
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« Reply #15 on: 17:19:24, 20-03-2007 »

(Off-topic advice to art thieves.....)


"Take the Monet and run......"

Did you hear about the con-men who tricked the Viennese art-collector Franz Huhl and stole his priceless Monet?

F.Huhl and his Monet were soon parted.



On a more serious, if surreal, note it's surprising what lengths some organisations will go to in their search for novelty when presenting classical music in this way.  Two years ago I was approached with the idea to stage THE FLYING DUTCHMAN on two barges in Jurmala harbour,  just outside Riga.  (On the basis that Riga played a part in Wagner's life during the composition of the piece - back then it was considered to be a part of Eastern Prussia).  I sat quietly and listened while the organisers presented this idea.  There were going to be two orchestras (one on each barge), and one barge would be Daland's, the other one would be Van Der Decken's.  All the scenes involving Erik, the spinning-girls etc would be staged on the Pier (to emphasise their non-seagoing nature).  It wasn't clear which orchestra would be playing for them.   Neither barge was scheduled to move, although this was open for discussion.

My questions about -  how on earth it was going to be lit, who would conduct it and how, how the sound would reach the beach (a good mile away away from the barges),  and how the audience would see what was going on at a mile's distance, and more particularly where the money was going to come from for this escapade - were met with silence, followed by a rather angry suggestion that I was trying to tear the project to pieces before it had even begun.  The organisers were adamant that no setting on dry land ("for example, on the beach within eyesight and earshot of the audience, with the barges coming ashore dramatically during the overture?") would suit them,  and they went off in a huff to try a different producer instead.

As far as I know, the project never reached fruition.
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« Reply #16 on: 19:16:37, 20-03-2007 »

I suppose if the music's good enough it doesn't need anything else but Aida has been performed in Egypt, The Yeomen of the Guard at the Tower of London and I remember a performance of Respighi's Fountain's of Rome accompanied by film of the actual fountains at the appropriate time of day. But I don't like musicians dressing up like Mozart to play his and Haydn's music.
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« Reply #17 on: 20:14:01, 20-03-2007 »

Having said that, me and a friend experienced The Residents' 'Eskimo' LP sitting in our flat in the depths of winter with the windows open, whilst it was snowing outside, in our sleeping bags. Cool.

Somehow that album makes me feel very shivery even if it's the middle of summer.
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« Reply #18 on: 22:28:02, 20-03-2007 »

Having said that, me and a friend experienced The Residents' 'Eskimo' LP sitting in our flat in the depths of winter with the windows open, whilst it was snowing outside, in our sleeping bags. Cool.

Somehow that album makes me feel very shivery even if it's the middle of summer.

I wish I hadn't mentioned it now, I've gone and voodooed myself - the boiler for our heating has broken this evening and won't be fixed 'til at least tomorrow.
The LPs effect is achieved by having a constant white noise wind noise in the background, I think.

I tend not to be much in favour of visuals with music, as I think that we, being visual creatures, tend to privilege the visual over the aural, to the detriment of the music. I think the same applies to the relationship between the voice and instrumental music, incidentally.
Which composer was it that was synaesthesic -Rimsky-Korsakoff?(it was on QI). He thought the lights were turned down at concerts so that the audience could better see the waves of colour emanating from the orchestra.
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« Reply #19 on: 22:29:59, 20-03-2007 »

And I'm not sure I would go to the extreme of becoming a down-and-out to perform Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet...

Going slightly off topic - anyone got any thoughts about that piece? It's many years since I heard it, but when I was involved in a performance at University I remember being very moved by it. I'm not sure that I feel quite as accepting of it now as I did - words like exploitation come to mind - but I'm not sure if that is a reasonable position to have.

Has anyone seen the film of the tramp that goes with it?
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« Reply #20 on: 11:14:12, 21-03-2007 »

And I'm not sure I would go to the extreme of becoming a down-and-out to perform Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet...

Going slightly off topic - anyone got any thoughts about that piece? It's many years since I heard it, but when I was involved in a performance at University I remember being very moved by it. I'm not sure that I feel quite as accepting of it now as I did - words like exploitation come to mind - but I'm not sure if that is a reasonable position to have.


I was spurred into buying by a performance given by yourownyourveryown Charlie Hazlewood and the BBC Phil.
The recording is something of a letdown, mainly because Tom Waites is on it, but you'd have to be a hard-hearted person for it not to move you.
What happened to the tramp? i suppose it would be less exploitative if we were to discover that he got paid for it - 3 homes, helicopter and stretch limo etc etc natch. - but i can't say it would stop me wanting to experience the music.
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« Reply #21 on: 17:15:25, 21-03-2007 »

words like exploitation come to mind

And stay there in my case which is why I find the piece objectionable. But when this came up on the previous boards a while back I found I was definitely in a minority.
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« Reply #22 on: 17:34:32, 21-03-2007 »

I agree with you George.

I remember reading somewhere that the tramp could not be found at first and by the time he was traced, he'd died.  Therefore he received no monetary benefits or indeed any benefits.

I don't like the piece.  It goes through me!  Perhaps that's what it is supposed to do but it was exploitation as far as I'm concerned and that doesn't sit easy.
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