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Author Topic: Taruskin's History of Western Music  (Read 600 times)
TimR-J
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« on: 14:16:18, 16-05-2007 »

OK, this book's been knocking around for about a year now, but I'm just getting round to flicking through it. Frankly, I'm flabbergasted at how awful it is.

No need for a serious review or anything, but I annoyed enough to start this thread where people can begin listing their (least) favourite bits of this piece of junk.

Personally, I like the chronology that comes in volume 6. A quick leaf through reveals the following hitherto unknown 'facts' (all sic):

Steve Reich wrote a string quartet called 'Trains'.
Philip Glass's most famous opera is called 'Einstein of the Beach'
Gérard Grisey died in 1988

and many more, I'm sure. Readers will also be tickled that amongst other auspicious events of 1945 (including, in the musical sphere, Peter Grimes, and the deaths of Bartók, Jerome Kern and Webern), the birth of one Richard Taruskin is also noted.

I'll save all the rank Europhobia for later if this thread takes off.
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« Reply #1 on: 14:49:17, 16-05-2007 »

I want to put one of my favourite exerpts from the book on the same thread.
If people think it is off topic I will remove it. May be we could start a new thread with the favorite parts of the book too.

Here is a part from Nicholas Cook Music (a very short introduction):
 
Nicholas Cook writes that there are many reasons that rumours of the death of classical music have been greatly exaggerated. He continues:
Lawernce Kramer, for instance, writes that

It is no secret that, in the United States anyway, this music is in trouble. It barely registers in our schools, it has neither the prestige nor the popularity of literature and visual art, and it squanders its capacities for self-renewal by clinging to an exceptionally static core of repertoire. Its audience is shrinking, graying, and overly pale-faced, and the suspicion has been voiced abroad that its claim to occupy a sphere of autonomous artistic greatness is largely a means of veiling, and thus perpetuating, a narrow set of social interests.

But author proves that the music industry has successfully repositioned classical music as a largely profitable niche product - a major niche product - in contemporary consumer culture.

I really liked this book (at least for the first half before I got tired for some reason.

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« Reply #2 on: 15:50:09, 16-05-2007 »

Its audience is shrinking, graying, and overly pale-faced

Can someone who's clever wiv grafficks do a nice picture for this?

(Where's martle when i need him?)
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« Reply #3 on: 15:56:01, 16-05-2007 »

The audience for classical music in the USA:



(With apologies to eruanto)
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« Reply #4 on: 16:04:22, 16-05-2007 »

I recently had a student who lived in the USA Boston area. Her mother told me how good it was there with community music schools and her daughter went there. She had no exams. Now here she is doing her grade 5 or 6 (don't remember)  for the first time. She had never done an exam.

I hear they have good music schools in Manhatten. With so many immigrants from former East European Block in the USA who needs to worry. There are so many good musicians there, good teachers, good performers etc. I do think that I am and some other people take too dark a view about classical music and its future.
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« Reply #5 on: 22:05:25, 16-05-2007 »

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Then again, RT is good at picking fights, especially with his intellectual inferiors, or those who know less trivia than he does (most of us).

I leap in to mention that Richard Taruskin is referred to above ;-)

If only Taruskin had stuck to his title "Western Music" and not got mired into the Shostakovich controversy, I'd find him slightly easier to take.
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« Reply #6 on: 00:57:44, 17-05-2007 »

Ah.....

I've read the whole of Taruskin's magnum opus and written some large chunks of text about it so far, but have too much else to do at the moment to comment in any significant way. Let's just say it's a brilliant work, a real gauntlet thrown down against lots of common assumptions, but at the same time from a massively reactionary and neo-conservative agenda. Wink

Charles Rosen's review of it may be of interest to some - it can be found here and here (one thing Rosen gets blatantly wrong, though, is the claim that Taruskin 'invents' the term 'defamiliarization' - anyone with even a passing familiarity with Russian literary theory would know that Victor Shklovsky developed the term (ostranenie in Russian) extensively in the early 20th century; it was fundamental not just to Russian Formalist criticism but also to many subsequent schools of writing about literature and culture in general).

What those of us involved in academia need to consider is the possibility that, in the near future, this could become students' basic reference work on music of any period. Sad
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« Reply #7 on: 08:42:33, 17-05-2007 »

I don't have a book, but based on the review that Ian kindly posted I am interested to read this book. There are interesting points one can make while reading. For example the possibility to discuss limitations of written music score. It is good to discuss this aspect with students. There is a lot of confusion about how one has to approach the score. From one point of view it is a blue print and has to be interpreted freely (who knows how they really played it in practice, we have no recordings of that from far away era). The other approach is to try to reproduce written score slavishly.

Also I never knew about Beethoven's political views. I knew that he tore the dedication to Napoleon from his score, but nothing more. I knew that he had friends in high places, but I did not know he had any views on "ruling classes". I did know from somewhere that he liked to put von in front of his name, but that his origins were not aristocratic.

Also I don't know about Russian music and if it should be included in the history of music. We in college had a semester of it after completing the West European course of music. I don't remember how long this semester was.
Also if one includes everything in a textbook it is huge. The XXth century and now the XXI are may be too much to be included in one course.
However, I don't know since this is not my area.
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« Reply #8 on: 10:27:56, 17-05-2007 »

Its audience is shrinking, graying, and overly pale-faced

Can someone who's clever wiv grafficks do a nice picture for this?

(Where's martle when i need him?)



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TimR-J
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« Reply #9 on: 14:51:31, 19-07-2007 »

What those of us involved in academia need to consider is the possibility that, in the near future, this could become students' basic reference work on music of any period. Sad

I think that's the most bothersome aspect. If it was called 'The Taruskin History of Western Music' it would be rather easier to stomach, but the use of 'Oxford' in the title, and the 6 volumes, confer an authority on it that it cannot claim (never mind the fact that what Taruskin turned in was hardly what Oxford commissioned, if rumours are to be believed).
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TimR-J
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« Reply #10 on: 15:13:02, 19-07-2007 »

 Grin Grin Grin

Well, they were expecting a single volume, anyway...
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