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Author Topic: Renaissance music "as boring as hell" - Discuss ;-)  (Read 1477 times)
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« Reply #15 on: 18:40:48, 04-07-2007 »

Since I rather suspect he may be something of a shadowy figure to many of us, GG, have you perhaps a pottered history of him?

Little is known of him, Ron, other than that he was something of a new broom in the musical life of Westphalia where he was appointed Meister of Quirresters and Captain of Cakes to the Margrave of Battenberg in 1482. He was forced into hiding after murdering his wife in a duel. Unfortunately, the supposed priest hole in the Margrave's Library where he initially sought refuge didn't actually exist and he died when a bookcase full of his own music fell on him, struck by his own muse as it were. He was without issue. Little now remains extant of his oeuvre other than a few of his 'Songs without Notes' in which he famously took the Renaissance ideal 'Words are the Mother-in-Law of Harmony' to its logical conclusion and omitted the music altogether thereby inventing the 'poem'.
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« Reply #16 on: 18:46:57, 04-07-2007 »

Thankyou, GG  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #17 on: 20:59:49, 04-07-2007 »

Oh George! What a wonderful summary of an extraordinary creative mind.
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« Reply #18 on: 09:08:12, 05-07-2007 »

Little is known of him, Ron, other than that he was something of a new broom in the musical life of Westphalia where he was appointed Meister of Quirresters and Captain of Cakes to the Margrave of Battenberg in 1482. He was forced into hiding after murdering his wife in a duel. Unfortunately, the supposed priest hole in the Margrave's Library where he initially sought refuge didn't actually exist and he died when a bookcase full of his own music fell on him, struck by his own muse as it were. He was without issue. Little now remains extant of his oeuvre other than a few of his 'Songs without Notes' in which he famously took the Renaissance ideal 'Words are the Mother-in-Law of Harmony' to its logical conclusion and omitted the music altogether thereby inventing the 'poem'.

I'm embarassed to say that I believed this was true, right up until the last sentence which was a bit much even for my extreme gullibility.  Embarrassed

Actually, I'm still not 100% sure...  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #19 on: 10:19:44, 05-07-2007 »

You've no idea how happy that makes me IRF Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: 10:22:28, 05-07-2007 »

Anyone know anything by Paolo Quagliati (1555-1628)?

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« Reply #21 on: 10:54:33, 05-07-2007 »

I've always regarded him as a major influence (in some respects but not in others) on Vincenzo Ugolini (1570-1638) and (in different respects and to a lesser degree though not to be dismissed entirely) on Fabian Perez Ximeno. That is not to say, however, that I would go along with the crass attempts by certain (but not all) commentators who argue that they each took up composing when they spotted an alphabetic niche in the Renaissance market (although such considerations cannot entirely be discounted). 
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« Reply #22 on: 12:17:35, 05-07-2007 »

Wasn't Ugolini mainly notorious for supposedly having killed and eaten two of his students in a fit of jealousy, George?
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« Reply #23 on: 12:23:23, 05-07-2007 »

killed and eaten two of his students in a fit of jealousy

Sounds more like gluttony to me, tinners.  Grin

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« Reply #24 on: 12:35:02, 05-07-2007 »

I think you've been watching too much Big Brother, m!
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« Reply #25 on: 12:36:28, 05-07-2007 »

Wasn't Ugolini mainly notorious for supposedly having killed and eaten two of his students in a fit of jealousy, George?

The very same. He pleaded having had to endure several months of wilful parallel fifths from them in mitigation and was let off with a caution.

Ugolini and Ximeno are for real by the way. Honest! (I know, I know, having cried Wolff once too often....)
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« Reply #26 on: 12:41:15, 05-07-2007 »

So does anyone have a recipe for Allievi al'Ugolini?

(Presumably it begins "...Take two students, freshly gathered...". Nowadays there's more than a fair chance that they'd be pre-marinaded, too...)
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« Reply #27 on: 12:42:12, 05-07-2007 »

...or herb-infused, Ron.
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« Reply #28 on: 12:56:12, 05-07-2007 »

Your information's a bit out of date there, martle. It's all synthesised chemicals these days, isn't it?
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« Reply #29 on: 13:06:54, 05-07-2007 »

Wasn't Ugolini mainly notorious for supposedly having killed and eaten two of his students in a fit of jealousy, George?
Mmm, Ubaldini brains. Smiley

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