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thompson1780
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« Reply #15 on: 21:22:44, 19-12-2007 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 16:11:22, 19-12-2007
http://r3ok.myforum365.com/index.php?topic=1322.0

Super!  Thanks Ollie - now added to my favourites

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« Reply #16 on: 21:43:12, 23-12-2007 »
Quote from: John W on 00:50:27, 19-12-2007
I have an (unplayed) Supraphon LP of late baroque Czech violin concertos, if you're unfamiliar with them I'll give them a play and maybe put a movmt of each on the sendit site.

tommo, and anyone interested,

I've made a start with this and put up

Josef Mysliviček: Violin Concerto in D major: 1st movement (8mins, 7meg mp3)

I don't know when it was written. Before or after Mozart wrote his?

After a brief search I'm not aware of any other recordings; this is from Supraphon 1 10 1060 stereo LP (1971).
Soloist: Eugen Prokop. Prague Chamber Orch. cond. Miloš Sádlo

Arthur Hutchins' bio of Mozart suggests they met at least twice. Once in Italy and once when Mysliviček was in hospital in Munich, I think 1777, two years after Mozart wrote his concertos.

The link to download

http://www.sendspace.com/file/69ociv

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« Reply #17 on: 22:12:32, 23-12-2007 »
There's another recording of the Janacek on Supraphon, with Ivan Zenaty and the Brno State PO conducted by Frantisek Jilek. It was reissued last year at mid-price, and is currently on special offer at MDT:


http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//SU38882.htm

The work is actually entitled The Wandering of a Little Soul (not Violin Concerto), and this is what the notes to the original issue (by leading Janacek expert Milos Stedron) have to say:

"The reason why it was reconstructed only in 1988 by Leos Faltus and Milos Stedron is very simple: the material had been considered only a sketch until, in the late 1980s, experts established that it was actually the score with some pages missing. These pages were then discovered in the score of [...] From the House of the Dead, and the reconstruction was unexpectedly easy [...]"

The Supraphon CD also contains another Janacek reconstruction the Dunaj (Danube) symphony, which is a fascinating work (with wordless soprano in the third movement), as well as the Sinfonietta and the two movements of music that Janacek composed for Gerhart Hauptmann's play Schluck und Jau.

I also have a non-commercial CD of the violin concerto and Dunaj (coupled with the Glagolitic Mass) conducted by Mackerras in Brno in 2004.

I love the Dvorak concerto, though I'm aware that many people consider it to have its weaknesses. My favourite recording is the live Suk/CzechPO/Ancerl performance on Orfeo.

Did anyone catch the recent performance of the concerto by Janacek's younger contemporary J.B. Foerster by the BBCSO? I didn't get to the concert, and was away when it was broadcast. Sad  A UK premiere I believe. Would love to hear it.
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« Reply #18 on: 22:33:29, 23-12-2007 »
Quote from: richard barrett on 23:42:59, 18-12-2007
Here's a bit of Jenufa:


As I've probably said elsewhere, I know that page quite well!  Am currently working on a transcription of it.  It's the only substantial surviving composition draft for Jenufa, and is for Act 1 scene 2 (entrance of the mill foreman), just one single-sided sheet. I've got about 75-80% of it, but it's quite a tricky thing to decipher.  Here's a scan of a full-size print I had made from a transparency provided by the Janacek Archive in Brno.  The original is sharper, but not much clearer!  As the autograph manuscript for the opera was destroyed by Janacek, this is quite an important little document, but no-one has yet been foolish enough to attempt a proper transcription of it.  Am hoping to publish something on it in the coming year.
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« Reply #19 on: 22:43:53, 23-12-2007 »
opi,

That's really great - thanks for the extra non violin concerto info.

And good luck with your page.

Tommo
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« Reply #20 on: 22:49:32, 23-12-2007 »
Opi,

That Foerster broadcast was 18 xii 07, so should still be on LA, failing which it should be in the Dough Archive in its unedited state, though I'll need to check for you....
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« Reply #21 on: 22:53:39, 23-12-2007 »
Thanks Tommo, and thanks Ron!

Have only recently returned home and hadn't thought of checking Listen Again (probably because the sound quality's always so dreadful! Sad). Will give it a spin though.
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« Reply #22 on: 23:19:16, 23-12-2007 »
No need, Opi, my cataloguing prowess has done its job, and I've separated out the concerto from the rest of the evening's concert for you at full CD resolution from FM. You'll be pleased to hear that the same forces have been in the studio recording this and its companion for a Supraphon release next year, too. Both should sound considerably better than LA!
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« Reply #23 on: 23:29:16, 23-12-2007 »
Many thanks, Ron! And very glad to hear about the Supraphon release! The BBCSO on Supraphon, eh? How times change ...  Smiley

And there's the Broucek on DG to look forward to as well.
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« Reply #24 on: 23:39:56, 23-12-2007 »
I'm very glad you made me search this out, Opi: it's a gorgeous piece - not exactly soul-searching, but very pleasant - one heck of a soloist, too. I have exactly the right coupling, for it salted away as well, pretty sure I know exactly where it is: sometime after Christmas, then....
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« Reply #25 on: 23:41:36, 23-12-2007 »
Quote from: Ron Dough on 23:39:56, 23-12-2007
I'm very glad you made me search this out, Opi: it's a gorgeous piece - not exactly soul-searching, but very pleasant - one heck of a soloist, too. I have exactly the right coupling, for it salted away as well, pretty sure I know exactly where it is: sometime after Christmas, then....

Am intrigued to know what the coupling will be: a New Year surprise! Very, very grateful!
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« Reply #26 on: 23:46:48, 23-12-2007 »
I very much enjoyed the Foerster when it was broadcast last week. It set me off listening to Suk - Pohádka and the Serenade for Strings with the Czech PO/ Jiří Bělohlávek - and Dvorak's Violin Concerto on a CD where it was coupled with the Coleridge-Taylor concerto.
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« Reply #27 on: 23:49:52, 23-12-2007 »
Listening again to the end, they don't actually say whether it is the BBCSO they've recorded it with, so we'll have to wait...
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« Reply #28 on: 16:23:51, 01-01-2008 »
Tommo,

The next in our occassional series of Czech Violin Concertos:

Jiří Antonín Benda: Violin Concerto in B flat major: 1st movement (5mins, 6meg mp3)

I don't know when it was written, maybe around 1750, so proper baroque which is maybe not what you are looking for  Roll Eyes

After a brief search I'm not aware of any other recordings; this is also from Supraphon 1 10 1060 stereo LP (1971).
Soloist: Eugen Prokop. Prague Chamber Orch. cond. Miloš Sádlo

The link to the download

http://www.sendspace.com/file/4leyye


John


Anyone not familiar with our Sendspace account can check out the posting at:

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« Reply #29 on: 21:27:17, 06-01-2008 »
Tommo,

Hope you are keeping up now, sendspace doesn't keep files forever Smiley

The third in our occassional series of Czech Violin Concertos:

Karel Stamic or Karl Stamitz( 1745-1801), Violin Concerto: 1st movement (8mins, 8meg mp3)

I don't know when it was written, maybe around 1775-80, and don't know the key (not indicated on the record label/cover). Karl was son of Jan Wenzel Anton Stammitz, both associated with Mannheim though Karl was much-travelled.

After a brief search I'm not aware of any other recordings of this concerto; his work for violin is clearly neglected in favour of other instruments e.g. viola, clarinet.

This violin concerto is from Supraphon 1 10 1060 stereo LP (1971).
Soloist: Eugen Prokop. Prague Chamber Orch. cond. Miloš Sádlo

The link to the download

http://www.sendspace.com/file/s3tn38


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