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« on: 08:55:45, 19-12-2007 » |
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I guess this thread should be in Music Appreciation, as it is about appreciation of performance styles and learning....
I heard Hilary Hahn on the radio the other day describing her teaching heritage. She was taught by Bronfman (did I remember that right?) who was taught by Ysaye.
I haven't heard much of Hahn but will listen out, as I am always keen to hear if there is a glimmer of past performance styles which has survived into the playing of the present.
Do you know any other family trees - teaching lines linking a current performer to a famous name from the past?
Any instrument or voice....
Tommo
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« Reply #1 on: 09:14:43, 19-12-2007 » |
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Charles Rosen studied with Moritz Rosenthal, who was taught by Liszt. I still find that amazing when I think that Liszt was born in 1811.
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« Reply #2 on: 09:16:29, 19-12-2007 » |
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Wasn't Oscar Peterson in the Liszt family tree as well? A tree which in the other direction includes Beethoven via Czerny if I remember right...
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« Reply #3 on: 09:21:38, 19-12-2007 » |
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Ludwig van Beethoven Carl Czerny Franz Liszt Stephan Thomán Paul de Marky Oscar Peterson  |
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« Reply #4 on: 10:42:17, 19-12-2007 » |
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If you go from Liszt to Istvan rather than Stephan Thomán, then to Bartók, then Sándor, you might have some red-haired lout next in the list  |
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« Reply #5 on: 11:55:04, 19-12-2007 » |
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Ah, now this gets interesting.....
Ludwig van Beethoven
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some red-haired lout
So how does the playing of Oscar Peterson compare with that of the red-haired lout? Is a shared heritage audibly apparent?
Tommo
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« Reply #6 on: 12:14:01, 19-12-2007 » |
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So how does the playing of Oscar Peterson compare with that of the red-haired lout? Is a shared heritage audibly apparent?
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« Reply #7 on: 12:19:18, 19-12-2007 » |
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Johann Sebastian Bach (1685 - 1750) - father of Western Music Johann Christian Kittel (1732 - 1809) - composer of 16 Grosse Präludien and 24 Choräle mit 8 verschiedenen Bässen über eine MelodieWilliam Howitt (1792 - 1879) - author of The Mad War-Planet and many songs Great-uncle Harry (1863 - 1954) - school principal, gifted organist, and Armstrong-Siddeley driver
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« Reply #8 on: 15:05:10, 19-12-2007 » |
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So how does the playing of Oscar Peterson compare with that of the red-haired lout? Is a shared heritage audibly apparent?
...or visually apparent? Is the shared heritage Steaks? Tommo |
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« Reply #9 on: 16:04:53, 19-12-2007 » |
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So how does the playing of Oscar Peterson compare with that of the red-haired lout? Is a shared heritage audibly apparent?
...or visually apparent? Is the shared heritage Steaks? Tommo I don't know about that, but I'm pretty certain it's not a pin-striped suit... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #10 on: 22:10:45, 14-01-2008 » |
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Unfortunately I didn't become a great, even mediocre, pianist but here's my musical tree: Ludwig van Beethoven Carl Czerny Leschetizky Waddington Cooke, teacher at the GSM, My grandma Me! Apparently Leschetizky arranged Rossini's Semeramide and William Tell for 8 pianos, 4 hands per piano!  |
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Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.
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« Reply #11 on: 23:08:45, 14-01-2008 » |
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Hmm... Ludwig van Beethoven | Carl Czerny --------------------------------------------------------------- | | Franz Liszt Teodor Leschetizky __|______________________ | | | Schnabel Stephan Thomán Istvan | | | Leon Fleisher Paul de Marky Bartok | | | Haskell SmallOscar Peterson Sandor | | moi. some red-haired lout ... and if you've heard me play the piano lately you'd know just how much that's worth -- through almost a decade of rust, not any fault whatever of Mr. Small's! |
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« Reply #12 on: 23:11:30, 14-01-2008 » |
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Does that make Evan J and MabelJ 2nd cousins once removed? I always get my cousiny things confused...
Tommo
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« Reply #13 on: 23:13:36, 14-01-2008 » |
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Does that make Evan J and MabelJ 2nd cousins once removed? I always get my cousiny things confused...
Tommo
I think we're second cousins, but who knows. My question is, is there anyone who has ever so much at sat down at a piano who doesn't go back to Beethoven?  |
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« Reply #14 on: 04:51:17, 15-01-2008 » |
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Arthur Schnabel
Karl Ulrich Schnabel
Barbara Shearer
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That does seem to work, but then Evan is somehow my uncle.... ?
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