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http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article1766348.eceI was at the Jarman screenings/concert on Saturday night and rather enjoyed the (reunited, though apparently slightly changed) band. Wondered if anyone else has any thoughts on Throbbing Gristle, then or now?
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #1 on: 19:05:57, 30-05-2007 » |
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Fantastic group, especially the albums D.O.A. Third and Final Report and 20 Jazz Funk Greats (the first track of the latter was a major inspiration for a movement of a juvenile piece of my own).
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #2 on: 19:10:40, 30-05-2007 » |
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I love '2nd' and '3rd annual report' and also 'heathen earth' -- I thought of them as Kraftwerk's evil cousin.
"though apparently slightly changed"
Gen certainly has! :-)
Must read that 'wreckes of civilization' bk someday.
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« Reply #3 on: 19:22:39, 30-05-2007 » |
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TG was one of the original inspirations for FURT, which was quite apparent in our early days although any resemblance has, as Ferneyhough would say, in the meantime become subcutaneous.
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« Reply #4 on: 19:33:59, 30-05-2007 » |
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as Ferneyhough would say That's very interesting though, because I was actually reminded quite a lot of FURT by certain things on Saturday, but I thought that might have been because my general ignorance of things electronic blinded me to the details, or something like that.
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #5 on: 17:32:34, 16-12-2007 » |
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Just discovered this thread. Genesis P.Orridge was in the year below me at school (he was Neil Megson in those days). We didn't get on for some reason, but did attempt to collaborate on a poetry-and-jazz project (which came to nothing). So I suppose I'm mildly interested in hearing some Throbbing Gristle. It's not particularly obvious why the posters so far rate the group so highly. More detail, anyone? Richard? Ian?
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« Reply #6 on: 18:09:52, 16-12-2007 » |
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Thistling Gob? Never heard a note of it.
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« Reply #7 on: 18:26:01, 16-12-2007 » |
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I don't know that I would ever have rated TG "so highly", or indeed listened to it that often, one gets the idea pretty quickly, it was just one of those things that set my mind spinning off in directions of its own, showing a possible aesthetic (if that's the word) direction at a time when "serious" electronic music seemed to have lost its way, and giving "permission" to not worry about things like sophisticated equipment, squeaky-clean sound quality, received notions of what electronic music was supposed to be "about" and so on.
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« Reply #8 on: 18:43:51, 16-12-2007 » |
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A lurker wants to know if the group is named after a Charles Bukowski phrase.
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« Reply #9 on: 18:47:52, 16-12-2007 » |
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TG was one of the original inspirations for FURT, which was quite apparent in our early days although any resemblance has, as Ferneyhough would say, in the meantime become subcutaneous.
And appropriately in this circumstance, perhaps, since it might seem to be suggestive of some kind of naturally occurring juxtaposition of fat and gristle... Best, Alistair
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« Reply #10 on: 18:32:52, 17-12-2007 » |
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A lurker wants to know if the group is named after a Charles Bukowski phrase.
I believe it's Yorkshire slang for something into more detail about which I probably shouldn't go in polite company, although I doubt it's much used among Member Cassidy's students. Did Charles Bukowski use it with the same meaning, I wonder?
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« Reply #11 on: 23:38:33, 17-12-2007 » |
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I think what was meant is that it sounds like a phrase that Bukowski would use, not one that he did use.
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« Reply #13 on: 22:22:44, 09-01-2008 » |
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The King receives private messages???!!!
WHO WOULD HAVE THE TEMETIRY?
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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