|
Ian Pace
|
 |
« Reply #30 on: 13:17:54, 26-02-2007 » |
|
"A poem is, so to speak, a way of making you forget how you wrote it."
In the case of composition, a comment that seems so pertinent to those of us who try to decipher composers' sketches and seek their help on the matter  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
|
|
|
|
JulienSorel
Guest
|
|
« Reply #31 on: 14:18:08, 26-02-2007 » |
|
Ah, er, oh, um, I see..... Well, yes, I obviously meant the rehearsals. I thought that went without saying. Cough.  I hope they went well anyway . Just going back to Richard's earlier comment again, I haven't yet had time to dig out related comments from other composers etc but here's a quote from the poet Randall Jarrell that is in the same sort of territory: "A poem is, so to speak, a way of making you forget how you wrote it." Or: A poem is, so to speak, a way of making you forget that you wrote it. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
George Garnett
|
|
« Reply #32 on: 15:37:47, 26-02-2007 » |
|
Or, while we are 'atto it:
'A poem is, so to speak, a way of making Hugh forge it. Who wrote it?'
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
time_is_now
|
|
« Reply #33 on: 16:41:38, 26-02-2007 » |
|
Brilliant, George! I always suspected that Caledonian antisyzygy was a big fraud ...  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
|
|
|
|
George Garnett
|
|
« Reply #34 on: 18:50:07, 26-02-2007 » |
|
Caledonian antisyzygy ... Cripes!!! I had to look that one up.  I'm quite pleased with myself for hazarding a lucky guess that you might mean Hugh MacDiarmid but I hadn't a clue as to why or how before I sought Mr Google's help. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
oliver sudden
|
|
« Reply #35 on: 12:14:07, 27-02-2007 » |
|
Meanwhile the rehearsals are going very well indeed and time_is_now or any other boarders will be most welcome to join us for a beer at the Schmaler Wurf or elsewhere. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
trained-pianist
|
|
« Reply #36 on: 15:34:07, 27-02-2007 » |
|
Ollie, I am glad that rehearsals are going well. I can not understand what you are playing or may be it is a secret. Anyway, it is great when rehearsals are going well, I love it. Who is Kats-Chemin? I tried to google, but could not understand if she is a composer or a clarinet player form Australia (and Russia).
Warmest wishes
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
aaron cassidy
|
|
« Reply #37 on: 15:46:47, 27-02-2007 » |
|
I can not understand what you are playing or may be it is a secret.
It's most definitely not a secret, as it is the title of this thread (and there have now been 3-4 links posted w/ information about the piece/installation of Richard's that Ollie's doing in Basle/Basel/Bāle/Bahzhul. ... though I do still wonder what the actual full performer lineup is, as the garedunord.ch link doesn't include names of at least 2 people who I know are playing. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
richard barrett
Guest
|
|
« Reply #38 on: 17:32:17, 27-02-2007 » |
|
Aaron, I'm not being rude by not answering: it's just that I know as much as you do. Oliver was a last-minute replacement (though I had warned him a few months ago on a wild hunch that it wasn't out of the question that he would be), possibly not the only one, and therefore didn't make it on to the advance publicity. I won't be there myself until Friday evening.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
aaron cassidy
|
|
« Reply #39 on: 17:48:17, 27-02-2007 » |
|
I was just curious, anyhow.
Hope it all goes well, RB.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
time_is_now
|
|
« Reply #40 on: 18:34:58, 27-02-2007 » |
|
Ollie, I am glad that rehearsals are going well. I can not understand what you are playing or may be it is a secret. Anyway, it is great when rehearsals are going well, I love it. Who is Kats-Chemin? I tried to google, but could not understand if she is a composer or a clarinet player form Australia (and Russia).
t-p, Maybe you were confused because the link Ollie gave was in German? It's a big piece by Richard, called Opening of the Mouth, which was first performed in Australia in 1997 and is now being done in Switzerland at the end of next week. Richard will be doing some of the electronics, Ollie will be playing clarinets, and I'll be flying out on the Saturday to review it for Tempo magazine, which is about the only British publication that still gives serious space to such events. The piece lasts a whole concert (it's made up of several shorter pieces) and is being performed in a sort of disused railway station, I think. When it was done in Australia the visual and atmospheric setting was a very important aspect of the piece (see http://www.elision.org.au/projects/opening/index.html for details) and I imagine the same will be the case this time. Elena Kats-Chernin is a composer (half-Russian, half-Australian I think, but I don't know which half is which or where she lives now - London maybe?) but I don't think she has anything to do with the present subject, except that one of our fellow messageboarders is also Australian. Apparently she wrote a piece which is being played on a TV advert a lot at the moment so maybe that's why you've heard her name. Hope that helps! |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: 18:40:06, 27-02-2007 by time_is_now »
|
Logged
|
The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
|
|
|
|
richard barrett
Guest
|
|
« Reply #41 on: 19:00:44, 27-02-2007 » |
|
'll be flying out on the Saturday to review it for Tempo magazine Can I just say, time_is_now, that I've always had the deepest respect and admiration for you and everything you've ever said and done? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
trained-pianist
|
|
« Reply #42 on: 20:00:55, 27-02-2007 » |
|
Thank you time_is_now. You explained very well. It is very interesting for me. I understood somethings, but not everything on the thread. I wish I could hear the piece. May be it will be recorded. Then you can let me know. I asked a few people here and they kind of know the composer's name.
Rob Cowan mentioned Kats-Chemin name on one of the threads. I understood that she is visiting and he is going to interview her or something. He did not really tell exactly.
Thank you again for explaining. I am very slow and I don't know much.
This is what Rob Cowan said on a thread - Hi all -
Just so that you know ... Kats-Chemin (Australian, ex-Russian) is coming ... and I'm sampling all sorts of things from elsewhere. Bws.
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: 20:08:05, 27-02-2007 by trained-pianist »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
martle
|
|
« Reply #43 on: 22:15:10, 27-02-2007 » |
|
'll be flying out on the Saturday to review it for Tempo magazine Can I just say, time_is_now, that I've always had the deepest respect and admiration for you and everything you've ever said and done? Richard, totally bloody brilliant!!! (Me too, t_i_n!) |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Green. Always green.
|
|
|
jamesweeks
Posts: 33
|
|
« Reply #44 on: 23:12:10, 27-02-2007 » |
|
Very impressed if Tempo are flying you out, t_i_n! First Class I hope; you need to be on good form for the show.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
