jamesweeks
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« on: 21:37:32, 21-02-2007 » |
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Can I pick your collective brains? (I'm NOT a BBC apparatchik!)
We were briefly discussing a while ago works written for the Schola Cantorum Stuttgart (such as Time and Motion III and Schnebel's fur Stimmen).
As usual the messageboard was full of erudition on the subject of vocal ensemble music, so...
I am having a periodic trawl for more repertoire for voices (max. SSSAAATTTBBB preferably), especially good stuff from 60s, 70s, 80s, but also more recent works. Many of you know the sort of thing EXAUDI (my group) likes best, and since you're the sort of people who might like it too, I hope you don't mind my asking if you have any good ideas (off the top of your head, please don't actually do any research!). Stuff with instruments also would be of great interest. Neglected classics a speciality!
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roslynmuse
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« Reply #1 on: 22:19:48, 21-02-2007 » |
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Two pieces I've done recently:
Jeffrey Lewis: Carmen Paschale (1981) - there's a recording by the BBC Singers under John Poole in the BMIC
Emily Howard: Ite Fortes (2006) for chamber choir with solo violin
If you want more info send me a PM.
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aaron cassidy
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« Reply #2 on: 01:25:43, 22-02-2007 » |
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I hope you don't mind my asking if you have any good ideas (off the top of your head, please don't actually do any research!). Stuff with instruments also would be of great interest. Neglected classics a speciality!
Nono. Lots and lots of Nono. |
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aaron cassidy
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« Reply #3 on: 01:33:19, 22-02-2007 » |
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After consulting the internets and the Google, a slightly more useful contribution:
Coro di Didone for voices and percussion
Donde estas Hermano? for 2 sopranos, mezzo-soprano and alto
Quando stanno morendo (Diario polacco n. 2) for 4 female voices, flute, cello and electronics
Ricorda cosa ti hanno fatto in Auschwitz for solo voices and tape
Sarà dolce tacere for 8 solo voices
Siamo la gioventù del Vietnam for unison chorus
Un volto del mare, for voices and tape
Canciones a Guiomat for soprano, 6 female voices and instrumental ensemble
It seems your Ts and Bs are out of luck on many of these (as are your male altos).
For the electronics, I have a few contacts for people who are doing ports of the older Nono/Richard electronics versions into much more portable, computerized versions (Max/Msp and such).
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jamesweeks
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« Reply #4 on: 07:49:40, 22-02-2007 » |
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Oh that's v interesting. I have long wanted to do Das Atmende Klarsein (choir with bass flute and electronics IIRC) so whoever your friend is, we should talk!
As for Sara dolce tacere, watch this space...
Thanks for the list also. Couple of things I don't know there!
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richtcello
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« Reply #5 on: 11:48:07, 22-02-2007 » |
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Nono. Yes... looking forward to how that turns out (I've sent a contact for a top class max programmer who has already done patches for some Nono vocal works)
Along the vocals and electronics front something I'd like to hear is Trevor Wishart's Vox 1,2 and 3
(but not 4, "Do the New Complexity finger-snap" Noooo! *shudders*)
Also you don't often see 'period performances' of electronics pieces using real tape loops (10 seconds is a lot of tape) and analogue hardware-
that would possibly result in a 'rougher' sound, and would also look great on stage if the piece was being performed live. Getting hold of it is another matter though...
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Tantris
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« Reply #6 on: 12:09:57, 22-02-2007 » |
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Some random thoughts ...
I certainly like to hear more Nono - and I would travel if Il Canto Sospeso was on a concert programme.
I also enjoy James Dillon's music - Viriditas (sixteen Solo Voices (4S, 4A, 4T, 4B) is an obvious choice and I've heard this a couple of times, but there are several other pieces that I haven't heard which sound interesting - (I've cribbed some details from the Edition Peters site);
Hyades - 12 Solo Voices
Oceanos - 16 Voices, 2Fl, 2Ob, 2Cl, 2Sax, Bsn, 2Hn, 2Tpt, 2Tb n, Tba, 6Perc, Pf, Hp, 6Vln, 2Vla, 2Vc, 2Db and Live Electronics (woodwind and piano with doublings)
Vapor - 4 voices and string quartet
…residue - Double Choir (24 voices)
and there's also L'évolution du vol (Female Voice, ClEb (B-cl, Cb-cl), 2Perc, Pf, Db), an early piece which I really like for some reason.
EDIT: Oh, and more Ferneyhough, Obrecht and Ockheghem, please - something along the lines of Aldeburgh 2006 would go down nicely!
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Tantris
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« Reply #7 on: 16:27:53, 22-02-2007 » |
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May I add one more? I have never heard this piece, but I've just spotted it on ebay - Vinko Globokar's Traumdeutung (for 4 choirs and instrumental quartet). The description sounds fascinating: it's a "psychodrama" that features 4 choirs simultaneously telling the stories of 4 different dreams from texts by poet Edoardo Sanguineti. It involves phonetics, semantics, and the translation of words into musicUnfortunately the price of that LP is well out of reach! |
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jamesweeks
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« Reply #8 on: 23:10:24, 22-02-2007 » |
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Thanks for these, Tantris.
(We actually did Hyades in Spain last month - seven pieces based on the stars in the Hyades constellation.)
Globokar sounds well worth the investigating.
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Evan Johnson
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« Reply #9 on: 16:25:23, 23-02-2007 » |
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I am having a periodic trawl for more repertoire for voices (max. SSSAAATTTBBB preferably), especially good stuff from 60s, 70s, 80s, but also more recent works. Many of you know the sort of thing EXAUDI (my group) likes best, and since you're the sort of people who might like it too, I hope you don't mind my asking if you have any good ideas (off the top of your head, please don't actually do any research!). Stuff with instruments also would be of great interest. Neglected classics a speciality!
Well, I know of at least one unheralded masterwork for SSAATT+violin  also: Peter Ablinger's "Weisse Litanei" is very nice - it's ostensibly for SSSMzMzA, but SSSAAA should be able to do it, I should think. Otherwise I second the request from your American public for more Nono... |
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aaron cassidy
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« Reply #10 on: 16:40:30, 23-02-2007 » |
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Evan! Nice to see you here.
I almost posted some little jab at James re your "Colophons whateverwhataeverwhatever" but I had already prodded once when I was over last month, and, nice piece as it is, it's certainly not a 'neglected classic.'
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Evan Johnson
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« Reply #11 on: 16:44:21, 23-02-2007 » |
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... nice piece as it is, it's certainly not a 'neglected classic.'
I didn't say it was a 'neglected classic.' I said it was an 'unheralded masterwork.' Please try and keep up! |
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Tantris
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« Reply #12 on: 09:50:35, 24-02-2007 » |
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(We actually did Hyades in Spain last month - seven pieces based on the stars in the Hyades constellation.)
What is Hyades like? Are you planning any performances in the UK, or is a recording likely to become available? 7 makes me think of Dufte-Zeichen. |
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xyzzzz__
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« Reply #13 on: 12:55:44, 25-02-2007 » |
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Richard's thread on Scelsi reminds me of his "TKRDG" (choir, guitar and percussion) - no idea if that would fit in with your group, but I've only heard a broadcast of this once.
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aaron cassidy
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« Reply #14 on: 19:52:10, 25-02-2007 » |
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You've probably already sifted through this stuff, but ... I've just pulled out the Neue Vocalsolisten Stuttgart disc from 8-9 yrs ago on col legno, and there's quite a lot of plausible repertoire here (some of it, like Nuits & the BF Missa Brevis you've already done).
Schebel: dt 31,6
Dusapin: Semino
Pagh-Paan: HIN-NUN
Bussotti: Ancora odono i colli
Honestly, I've never really enjoyed this disc, but I think that's largely b/c all I can ever hear is NVS, never the pieces themselves. It all ends up sounding very samey and over-the-top and, well, frankly not really my cup of tea.
Anyhow, at least 2-3 of these pieces would sound great w/ EXAUDI's approach, I'd think.
(How'd the Spain concert go?)
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