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Lord Byron
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« on: 15:08:34, 22-06-2007 »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6229098.stm

it is just a ring !

cor blimey,folk have gone totally mad,bad and dangerous to know !
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« Reply #1 on: 17:51:26, 22-06-2007 »
god. if the school has a no ring policy, then take it off.
whatever happened to the good old chastity belt?
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eruanto
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« Reply #2 on: 17:59:17, 22-06-2007 »
I take the head's view on this. I just don't see what relevance the issue has to Religion at all. Yes OK there's a quotation on it and things, but there's only so much symbolism a ring can take.

Or are people not allowed to pursue abstinence if they're not religious?
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Tony Watson
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« Reply #3 on: 21:13:15, 23-06-2007 »
Before you read this, sit down and take a deep breath. I'm going to be controversial.  Shocked

I say exclude all religion from schools. It's a private matter for the home and family. No hymns, prayers or special clothes and definitely no "faith" schools.
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Bryn
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« Reply #4 on: 21:56:43, 23-06-2007 »
Come on Tony, I am still standing, and wondering when you are going to get the the "controversial" bit. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: 08:19:08, 24-06-2007 »
quite agree tony, but doesn't that mean that faith schools would multiply as parents who want their children to, say, have prayers or wear hijabs move their children to single faith schools?
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #6 on: 09:09:18, 24-06-2007 »
Quote from: Tony Watson on 21:13:15, 23-06-2007
Before you read this, sit down and take a deep breath. I'm going to be controversial.  Shocked

I say exclude all religion from schools. It's a private matter for the home and family. No hymns, prayers or special clothes and definitely no "faith" schools.

I agree with you on all counts. On the other hand, I absolutely loved hymns and psalms and things when I was at school, but it was the excuse to sing that I liked, not the religious thing. I'd have been just as happy if we'd sung non-religious stuff - happier, probably.

The ring thing I find ludicrous, sad.
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Tony Watson
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« Reply #7 on: 09:34:44, 24-06-2007 »
tonybob,

Single faith schools wouldn't exist if I had my way and religion wouldn't be practised in schools either.

Mary,

I used to like the hymns at school. I like churches and I've got a two hymn books, a couple of bibles and the book of common prayer in my house even though I don't believe in it.
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« Reply #8 on: 09:38:08, 24-06-2007 »
Mary,you remind me of a concert I went to years ago in a local church.It was January and the heating had failed. The programe was two Bach Cantatas and 'St.Nicholas' and the audience were invited to stand and join in the chorales and hymns. I think everyone did, certainly more than would have done in summer.It was the sheer relief of standing up and doing something.

To me the silver ring thing appears an achronistic,in that today., if teenagers want to have sex, they will do it , untrammelled by restrictions which no longer exist. What I don't about it is the attempt to exert moral blackmail and turn it into a universal compulsion,where backsliders are regarded with contempt and shame.It's like 'Brave New World' in reverse.


I don't suppose it will succeed except among evangelical religious communities where behavioural control still operates. But my heart goes out to any bewildererd young teen in such a community who falls in love with a person 'forbidden' by the church in any way.  
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richard barrett
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« Reply #9 on: 09:52:40, 24-06-2007 »
The father of the girl mentioned in the article is described as a pastor, and it looks to me as if in this case he is using his own daughter as a spearhead for putting his ideas onto the school agenda. This I find really quite reprehensible, quite apart from all the other issues.
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SusanDoris
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« Reply #10 on: 16:42:58, 27-06-2007 »
Quote from: richard barrett on 09:52:40, 24-06-2007
The father of the girl mentioned in the article is described as a pastor, and it looks to me as if in this case he is using his own daughter as a spearhead for putting his ideas onto the school agenda. This I find really quite reprehensible, quite apart from all the other issues.

I'm a bit late joining this (I forget to look here) but agree very much with what you say.
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