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went to a philosophy debate on saturday on god,truth,religion,science and now think science is evil as well all things are good and evil, even philosophy,depending on how we use it The important thing is to ensure a society does not run out of wine or radio 3 style cultural events  |
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went to a philosophy debate on saturday on god,truth,religion,science and now think science is evil as well
Why? And, in what way? all things are good and evil, even philosophy,depending on how we use it
Under what circumstances would a particular *use* of philosophy make the philosophy itself evil (however you might define the latter term). |
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« Reply #2 on: 18:35:09, 01-10-2007 » |
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The Philosophy Debate
(jointly organised by PFA and the Mary Ward Centre)
We will discuss issues at the focus of modern and 20th century philosophy. No fee. More details of the next debate are posted about a fortnight prior to it taking place.
Venue: The Mary Ward Centre, Queen Square, London WC1N 3AQ (near Russell Square)
There will be debates on 29 Sep, 3 Nov, 1 Dec, 26 Jan, 23 Feb, 17 May, 14 June & 5 July.
All dates are Saturdays, time 2 to 5 pm
29 September: Can science provide universal truth?
Introduced by Dr Filiz Peach
The July debate (on the French Revolution) constantly wandered into the area of rationality vs. religious faith, and so it was decided to devote a debate to this topic in its own right.
After a long ceasefire in the war between religion and atheism/agnosticism, battle seems to have recommenced in the last few years, with increasingly aggressive attacks from both sides. But can religious faith be reconciled with a scientific and rational approach to the world? Can science provide the answers to all the problems of human existence? If you define faith as a belief in something for which there is no definite proof, doesn't everyone have it to some degree? Come and discuss these highly topical issues.
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« Reply #3 on: 19:37:43, 01-10-2007 » |
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Rather than post even more guff, byron old fruit, why don't you do increpatio the courtesy of answering his question?
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went to a philosophy debate on saturday on god,truth,religion,science and now think science is evil as well
Why? And, in what way? all things are good and evil, even philosophy,depending on how we use it
Under what circumstances would a particular *use* of philosophy make the philosophy itself evil (however you might define the latter term). I think the problem is extremism, one must hold a balance between science,philosophy and religion, too much of anything is a bad thing. |
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« Reply #5 on: 19:59:14, 01-10-2007 » |
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Rather than post even more guff, byron old fruit, why don't you do increpatio the courtesy of answering his question?
done, old wise owl... i mean that in a nice , wise, way |
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I think the problem is extremism, one must hold a balance between science,philosophy and religion, too much of anything is a bad thing.
I find this rather strange coming from someone whose "philosophy" consists of adumbrating voluntary extinction for the human race. |
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« Reply #7 on: 20:02:57, 01-10-2007 » |
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true, i am a contradiction
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« Reply #8 on: 22:36:06, 01-10-2007 » |
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It's a bit like having a non-stinging insect buzzing around your head - you sort of want to swat it but can't be bothered.
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« Reply #9 on: 01:17:38, 02-10-2007 » |
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29 September: Can science provide universal truth?
That sounds ominously like the subject of one of the Christian Science sermons that my grandparents thought were so full of Truth.  |
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« Reply #10 on: 11:14:29, 02-10-2007 » |
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Rather than post even more guff, byron old fruit, why don't you do increpatio the courtesy of answering his question?
done, old wise owl... i mean that in a nice , wise, way A wise old owl sat in an oak, The more he heard, the less he spoke; The less he spoke, the more he heard; Why aren't we all like that wise old bird? (not O'Brien's one exactly, but the closest the internet can find to it)  went to a philosophy debate on saturday on god,truth,religion,science and now think science is evil as well
Why? And, in what way? I think the problem is extremism, one must hold a balance between science,philosophy and religion, too much of anything is a bad thing.
But what constitutes too much science? You think that say at some point in the future we should just say "right, enough science. let's stop now, play that table-tennis game we'e been putting off"? Sorry. I'm being terribly frivolous I know. I don't see too much the sense in that statement: I don't think it's a matter of balance so much as a matter of maintaining civic order and ensuring some set of minimal rights are had by each person. Am I missing something DB? Maybe if you went into a little bit more detail, I might understand your view a little more clearly. |
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I think the problem is extremism, one must hold a balance between science,philosophy and religion, too much of anything is a bad thing.
I have a problem with the use of the word extremism as a blanket term of abuse. What is wrong with someone being extremely wise, extremely generous, extremely brave, extremely good looking, extremely kind and so on? |
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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven.
A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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I think the problem is extremism, one must hold a balance between science,philosophy and religion, too much of anything is a bad thing.
What is wrong with someone being extremely wise, extremely generous, extremely brave, extremely good looking, extremely kind and so on? Well that's just showing off then innit?  |
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« Reply #13 on: 12:29:53, 02-10-2007 » |
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I have a problem with the use of the word extremism as a blanket term of abuse.
Yes, me too. What is wrong with someone being extremely wise, extremely generous, extremely brave, extremely good looking, extremely kind and so on?
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« Reply #14 on: 12:30:44, 02-10-2007 » |
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Rather than post even more guff, byron old fruit, why don't you do increpatio the courtesy of answering his question?
done, old wise owl... i mean that in a nice , wise, way When philosophy paints its grey in grey, then has a form of life grown old. The owl of Minerva spreads its wings only with the falling of the duck. |
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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