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MT Wessel
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« on: 21:42:52, 07-12-2007 »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7133571.stm
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« Reply #1 on: 10:46:33, 08-12-2007 »

Why is this "entertainment" news? I never found much entertainment in Stockhausen's music.
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« Reply #2 on: 12:44:46, 08-12-2007 »

But Pim.
All music is entertainment.
Or at least that's what we should be aiming for.
Stockhausen's problem was that he expected too much from his audience.
We could all learn from his failure and write a few more hummable tunes with less dissonance.

There are some entertaining moments in Licht surely?
('Everyone back in!')
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« Reply #3 on: 15:43:18, 08-12-2007 »

Agreed hh. Stockhausen was an innovative first rater of the highest calibre and don't let any of the 'school bullies' persuade you otherwise. If they attempt to do so just tell me and I'll get them in the playground later. Right! Angry
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« Reply #4 on: 16:47:06, 08-12-2007 »

He was also especially in the late '60s - early '70s pretty much the closest thing a post-war composer has ever been to being a genuine 'star' (along with Cage, perhaps). That's certainly when his work was influencing the pop scene to the greatest extent. As pretty much all the obits have mentioned, he's there on the Sgt Pepper's album cover. That means it's certainly newsworthy to a lot of people outside our little classical music world - he even got a big splash in one of the tabloids here although the headline was admittedly 'Köln composer dies' Wink

As to what classical music is doing under the heading 'entertainment' to start with, I can't really help with that one.
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« Reply #5 on: 17:45:04, 08-12-2007 »

Yes. Well I'm sick to the back teeth of toffee nosed, scenty gob punters constantly slagging off all forms of contemporary music on this board. It's off putting and is enough to make a man eat his bairns. In fact I'm so fed up that I have launched a personal campaign against it called er....
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Now woe betide anyone who tries it on. They'd best do it where I can't see it or I will come down on them like a ton of wotsits. Watch it you slags or it will serve you bloody well right as far as I am concerned ....

In the meantime this thread is continued here. http://r3ok.myforum365.com/index.php?topic=2263.0
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