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Author Topic: Latest BBC Reality TV Dreck - "Celebs Conduct Orchestras"  (Read 333 times)
Ron Dough
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« Reply #15 on: 11:53:21, 10-01-2008 »

Simon Callow doing Largo al X-factotum?

Cowell, surely?

It does strike me that this is going considerably further into inanity than most other such ventures: basically, one can sing or one can't: one can dance or one can't (though the learning of choreography is a different matter altogther Sad), but even those with a proven knowledge of music (even their own music in Delius's case) can't be guaranteed to make conductors: the final result is in the hands of the performers, who may produce results despite what the conductor is doing. The Tony Palmer RVW film, with the quotation of him shouting at the Leith Hill singers "I've told you a hundred times, don't look at me", and the Vienna New Year's Day Concert, where despite maestro Prêtre's elegant characterisation of what he wanted, most of the orchestra hardly ever looked at him, both bear witness to this, as do occasional reports of a certain BBC band all but ignoring the efforts of certain conductors. It does make it all the more easily fixable, of course....
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« Reply #16 on: 12:12:10, 10-01-2008 »

In response to Ron's message above...

...  the orchestra with whom I regularly work were "obliged" to accept a "guest conductor" for a gig (forced on them by the sponsor, who wished to have the works they had sponsored conducted by their own conductor-of-choice).

One of the works was Schedrin's "Carmen Ballet Suite", which is simply an arrangement of Bizet's music for String Orchestra and Tuned & Untuned Percussion.  The work begins with the melody of the Toreador's Song - straight-in with no messing-around or introductions.  In the first rehearsal, instead of the conventional upbeat, the conductor drew a picture of an ostrich in the air, then whammed his fist downwards...  and was surprised when only a quarter of the players played anything?  He repeated the exercise (this time the picture was some kind of cassowary) and the same thing happened, after which he threw a tantrum.  At the break, the players secretly agreed that they would all ignore the conductor and follow the Leader instead.  The results were entirely satisfactory Wink
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« Reply #17 on: 13:54:19, 10-01-2008 »

Any betting on the celebs including Myleene Klass?

My "(bad) dream team" would be Anne Widdecombe, Terry Wogan, and Phil off EastEnders.

Tommo

I see your Widdecombe, Wogan and off-Eastenders, and raise you:

Gary Lineker, Pete Doherty and Tara Palmer-Tomkinson.
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« Reply #18 on: 14:06:16, 10-01-2008 »

Simon Callow doing Largo al X-factotum?

Cowell, surely?
Oops! Yes, indeed! Apologies to you, anyone else offended and to the real Simon Callow...

Best,

Alistair
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