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Reiner Torheit
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« on: 18:03:14, 09-01-2008 »
The Guardian reports on the latest lowpoint in BBC Classical Music Coverage - celebrities will be allowed to conduct choirs and orchestras.  The winner will conduct at the Last Night Of The Proms.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,2237619,00.html

I wish this was a joke, but sadly...
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« Reply #1 on: 18:12:52, 09-01-2008 »


I don't know how much more of this I can take.
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« Reply #2 on: 18:15:38, 09-01-2008 »
Reiner, looks as though I wasn`t too off course with my previous mention of The Barbie Prom ... <there-isn`t-an -emoticon-for-this emoticon>
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« Reply #3 on: 18:29:36, 09-01-2008 »
Doesn't look very promising does it ? The one consolation is that the prize is for the Last Night and so won't infect the rest of the Proms any more than that fiasco already does. I see that the celebs will be mentored by young conductors. Hmm, now I wonder who they could be ? It's not going to be Volkov, Dudamel or Harding is it....so, Jason Lai anyone ( is that his name ? ) CH ( if he can be considered "young" ? ) There's just a slim hope that the celebs may realise that the task isn't easy and will put in a respectable effort. Presumably they will be a slightly different bunch than those attracted to the ballroom or the jungle. 
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« Reply #4 on: 18:31:22, 09-01-2008 »
Times were when we could have had good competition with Ted Heath MP, Boris Yeltsin  Wink and Patrick Moore, but I expect we'll have Jeremy Clarkson, Jordan and Stanley Collymore  Tongue

or maybe ClassicFM will sponsor Simon Bates, David Mellor and Tony Robinson  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: 18:32:39, 09-01-2008 »
Well, at the risk of having a Victor Meldrew moment - I don't believe it !!

"we hope that by following different people's journeys in learning how to conduct, it will succeed in opening up classical music to a completely different audience."

Oh Really?  Jon Snow will be one contestant.  Well he does wave his arms around a lot when playing with his Swingometer which could be a useful trait for a conductor.  Hardly a Celeb though I would have thought.  Perhaps Graham Norton or Jonathan Ross would pull in more punters?

And what's the betting that one of the Judges will be Chazzer Hazelwood  Lips sealed
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« Reply #6 on: 18:33:47, 09-01-2008 »
Quote from: BobbyZ on 18:29:36, 09-01-2008
I see that the celebs will be mentored by young conductors. Hmm, now I wonder who they could be ?

Charles Hazelwood may have a space in his diary...    Wink

Next year the celebs get to write symphonies and operas...
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« Reply #7 on: 18:34:58, 09-01-2008 »


Jon Snow



Peter Snow

Snowball fight anyone?
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« Reply #8 on: 18:40:21, 09-01-2008 »
I can`t believe that ALW has been left out of this.  An outrage! What he has done for `Maria` and `Joseph` he can do for Last Night of the Proms. With a bit of help from Graham, of course ... Wink
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« Reply #9 on: 18:41:21, 09-01-2008 »
Oh well Roslyn, shows that neither of the Snows have impacted much on my consciousness as being a "Celebrity" doesn't it?  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: 22:16:59, 09-01-2008 »
Oh dear.  It could be worse, I suppose - they could be singing  Angry  Celebrity Figaro, anyone, with Charles Hazlewood telling us all how opera was to the Viennese bourgeoisie what soaps are to the British public today? 

In the meantime, perhaps the BBC spokesman quoted in the Guardian piece might elaborate on what is meant by "the classical genre" .... Huh
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« Reply #11 on: 23:13:36, 09-01-2008 »
Any betting on the celebs including Myleene Klass?

My "(bad) dream team" would be Anne Widdecombe, Terry Wogan, and Phil off EastEnders.

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« Reply #12 on: 23:16:35, 09-01-2008 »
Jeremy Clarkson, John Humphries, Davina McCall.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: 23:41:25, 09-01-2008 »
It's all a bad dream.   Sad   I've slipped across to the wrong dimension again.  It's really becoming a habit.  Must go - I'm due back in my own universe.

My worst nominees would be : Jonathan Ross, Jeremy Clarkson, Posh Spice and Janet Street-Porter.
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« Reply #14 on: 00:06:30, 10-01-2008 »
Quote from: richard barrett on 18:12:52, 09-01-2008


I don't know how much more of this I can take.
Oh, come on, Richard; stand up and take it like a man, just like Ives is supposed to have told people to do about dissonance! Anyway, you'll have to take some more of it if the rumour I've heard is true in that the winner gets to conduct Vanity at the Last Night (the vanity native to the concert platform of which S*****i once wrote, that is...).

Seriously, I must admit that I thought 1 April had come very early this year when reading that piece, but sadly my thoughts were misplaced. So, what will we really get? Gordon Ramsay conducting Nyman's The Cook... with a cleaver in place of a baton...? Simon Callow doing Largo al X-factotum? Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall in Le Coq d'Or? Charlotte Church in Colin Matthews's orchestration of La Cathedrale Engloutie? (now that might be a good idea, provided it stuck - the submergence, that is...). The mind (or what's left of it) must stop boggling - or else they'll get the idea of having that great orchestrator Bruce Forsyth fronting it all and signing off each contest with the words "juuuust keeeeep conducting!"...

Never mind - it'll all help to keep good ol' classical music in front of loadsa people and justify its survival, innit...

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