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Peter Grimes
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« on: 14:54:58, 15-01-2008 »
The City of Salford (pop. 216,103) loses its only maternity unit (Hope Hospital) and gains an orchestra (BBC Philharmonic). Now it emerges that Salford’s Council Tax payers may have to foot part of the £20,000,000 bill for having a professional orchestra based in their city. Not everybody is happy about this intrusion of culture into their lives:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1032038_orchestra_deal_hits_sour_note

Music is regarded as not something you pay for unless it’s knock off CDs from Salford market. Some of the comments on this story are breathtaking.

It’s Grim Up North!
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« Reply #1 on: 15:25:15, 15-01-2008 »
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Council leader John Merry said that some of the revenue could be found from the increased number of homes being built in and around the Quays when the mendacity:uk scheme takes off. This would generate more council tax money he said.

I read that slightly differently at first glance...  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: 15:59:22, 15-01-2008 »
Quote from: Peter Grimes on 14:54:58, 15-01-2008
The City of Salford (pop. 216,103) loses its only maternity unit (Hope Hospital) and gains an orchestra (BBC Philharmonic). Now it emerges that Salford’s Council Tax payers may have to foot part of the £20,000,000 bill for having a professional orchestra based in their city. Not everybody is happy about this intrusion of culture into their lives:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1032038_orchestra_deal_hits_sour_note

Music is regarded as not something you pay for unless it’s knock off CDs from Salford market. Some of the comments on this story are breathtaking.

It’s Grim Up North!


That's one hell of a sweeping statement.  It might be grim in Salford but I live in the North-West and it isn't grim here.  I'm from the South originally and there are some pretty dire places in respect of lack of culture down there.  So let's not generalise please, it can cause offence.
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« Reply #3 on: 19:19:39, 15-01-2008 »
Quote from: Milly Jones on 15:59:22, 15-01-2008
That's one hell of a sweeping statement.  It might be grim in Salford but I live in the North-West and it isn't grim here.  I'm from the South originally and there are some pretty dire places in respect of lack of culture down there.  So let's not generalise please, it can cause offence.
Oh. I read it as Peter Grimes writing from in or near Salford and being mildly self-deprecatory out of frustration with his own fellow locals. Just goes to show, I suppose!

(And I'm from Oldham, but have lived down South for 10 years now.)
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« Reply #4 on: 09:03:35, 16-01-2008 »
Oh well in that case I apologise.  It's just that I hear that sort of thing so often from people South of Watford it's obviously made me a bit over-sensitive.
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« Reply #5 on: 12:35:19, 16-01-2008 »
C’est vrai time_is_now. I’ve lived in Salford for the last 13 years. So there Milly Jones. (Just kidding!)

The sad fact is that most people here would never dream of going to see an orchestra. I’d say that’s their loss. Let’s hope that the BBC Philharmonic’s education and outreach programmes for the community (including schools) will make some of them change their minds.

I thought the article (which made the front page of the M.E.N.) would be of interest because it illustrates how grand cultural schemes in this country can turn pear-shaped when politicians get involved and start scoring points off each other in order to keep their voters happy and thereby stay in office.

Music and theatre are thriving in the region, partly because performers and administrators are not as complacent as they are in certain other parts of the country (not just down South).

I’m tempted to ask if anybody knows the best way to Oldham, but that might cause offence, so I won’t.

mendacity:uk … nice one, oliver sudden!

Milly Jones, that top so does not go with those shoes!

T.T.F.N., P.G.
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« Reply #6 on: 13:32:11, 16-01-2008 »
Quote from: Peter Grimes on 12:35:19, 16-01-2008
I’m tempted to ask if anybody knows the best way to Oldham, but that might cause offence, so I won’t.
By the balls? Cheesy
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