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Author Topic: British Govt lied about CIA "rendition" flights  (Read 210 times)
Reiner Torheit
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« on: 14:07:00, 21-02-2008 »

David Miliband has been forced to reveal that the British Govt lied about CIA "rendition" flights - which did indeed pass through the UK, despite concrete denials to the contrary from Jack Straw and others:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7256587.stm
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« Reply #1 on: 14:15:50, 22-02-2008 »

Um, I don't think that's quite what the article you posted is saying (re: lying) RT. The government is saying that they were told by the US that this hadn't happened at the time - so if anyone was lying it was probably the CIA - which wouldn't really be a surprise! Hopefully this will be a signal to the British Government that the 'special relationship' is a sham and they should adopt a much more critical stance towards the US.
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« Reply #2 on: 21:41:10, 22-02-2008 »

Either way it means we can't trust the British Government.  Either they lie directly to us, or they have an intelligence service which is too incompetent to understand whether the CIA is lying to us or not......

Sometimes, I would prefer to have the British Press as our intelligence service.

Cynical, moi?

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« Reply #3 on: 13:08:16, 23-02-2008 »

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« Reply #4 on: 15:44:13, 23-02-2008 »

Either way it means we can't trust the British Government.

Is there a government in the world that can be entirely trusted?
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« Reply #5 on: 19:54:35, 23-02-2008 »

Um, I don't think that's quite what the article you posted is saying (re: lying) RT. The government is saying that they were told by the US that this hadn't happened at the time - so if anyone was lying it was probably the CIA - which wouldn't really be a surprise! Hopefully this will be a signal to the British Government that the 'special relationship' is a sham and they should adopt a much more critical stance towards the US.

I was trying to think where I'd heard that before...  that the prisoner hadn't been locked-up, but then, well it turned-out that he had,  because if an order is given then it's as good as done before it's been done...  and I realised that this is the plot of THE MIKADO.  As a comic opera it's excellent - but as a way to run an allegedly democratic country, I'd contend that it leaves something to be desired.

In the same week that the Govt announce that they plan to collect nine different pieces of personal data on every air. rail or sea passenger arriving in Britain (including their mobile phone number and their credit card details), it strikes me as slightly incongruous that not only did Britain allow kidnapped (="rendered") persons to be routed through the country...  there is to be no formal complaint to Britains overlords allies in Washington about the matter.  If I was supposed to be reassured by "it's not our fault because we haven't a clue what's going on, we just let Uncle Sam decide for us", then frankly - I'm not.
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