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« Reply #1 on: 09:16:19, 25-04-2008 » |
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If they choose to replace Rattle with Thielemann they deserve what they get. On the other hand I dearly wish I weren't in Kiev on September 21st because that's the kind of thing I'd cross Germany to hear...
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« Reply #2 on: 10:25:09, 25-04-2008 » |
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You're in KIEV on 21st Sept?? I hear the merry chink of beer-glasses from afar Kiev is just down the road (relatively speaking). Dare one ask what you're doing there? It's not a city greatly associated with contemporary music usually, although there's a small circuit of "new stuff" PS the locals prefer the spelling "Kyiv" these days politikal'naya korrektnost'
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House" - Leon Trotsky, "My Life"
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« Reply #3 on: 10:40:43, 25-04-2008 » |
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It looks like I'll be in, ahem, Kyiv from Sept 19-21. Concert on the 21st, music by Serhiy Pilyutikov, Oleg Bezborodko, Swjatoslaw Lunjow, Alla Zahajkewytsch, Aleksandr Shchetynsky. (They're the transliterations I have from the office, anyway.)
Europäischer Musikraum-Komponistenwerkstatt im Rahmen der deutschen Kulturtagen in Kiew (unterstützt durch die Siemens Musikstiftung) is what my project information is telling me...
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« Reply #4 on: 11:06:29, 25-04-2008 » |
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Well, Kie... err, Kyiv's a mere toodle on the train from here, and Ukraine is best-of-friends now they've settled-up for their gas supplies so it sounds like an excellent pretext for an excursion Super city with lots to see, leafy green boulevards etc. Perhaps we can round-up Sir Walter Boote-Legge - if indeed he isn't already one of the concert-organisers But meanwhile, back on the topic of the BPO, I agree that the hangar-concert perf of Gruppen does look quite juicy
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« Reply #5 on: 11:23:20, 25-04-2008 » |
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Not only Gruppen but Et Exspecto - should be a great space for it, you can't keep those noises cooped up in a concert hall. And even if Rattle's not quite top of my own personal Messiaen list he's at least always interesting. (It would surely also be interesting to be able to hear Karajan's 1959 performance of Réveil des oiseaux... )
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« Reply #6 on: 11:50:09, 25-04-2008 » |
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Not only Gruppen but Et Exspecto - should be a great space for it, you can't keep those noises cooped up in a concert hall. And even if Rattle's not quite top of my own personal Messiaen list he's at least always interesting. (It would surely also be interesting to be able to hear Karajan's 1959 performance of Réveil des oiseaux... ) It's a strange thing with Rattle and Messiaen. He clearly loves the music, but for me at least, he never seems to bring it off in performance. I've tried his Trois Petites Liturgies, his Turnagalîla (both on LP and CD) and his Éclairs ... (in three different performances), but always come away disappointed.
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« Reply #7 on: 11:57:56, 25-04-2008 » |
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"Rattle took up the position in 2002 after 18 years with the Birmingham Philharmonic ... " So much for the Independent's subbing. !
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« Reply #8 on: 12:47:16, 25-04-2008 » |
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"Rattle took up the position in 2002 after 18 years with the Birmingham Philharmonic ... "
So much for the Independent's subbing. !
Sadly the Indy takes little notice of classical music generally
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« Reply #9 on: 12:53:54, 25-04-2008 » |
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I've never felt that BPO/Rattle was a marriage made in heaven - a bit like the Philharmonia's splicing with the late Guisseppe Sinopoli. Rattle is a man with a golden EMI contract who, until recently, could do no wrong - at least where British critics were concerned. Yet his ideas for the BPO have been modish and gimmicky in the extreme - old gimmicks, in fact, dating from his Birmigham days. And I've never understood why Rattle has such a towering reputation. What's so special about him?
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« Reply #10 on: 19:50:39, 25-04-2008 » |
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An unsympathetic person taking a less than charitable view may very well conclude that his rehearsals at least are unremittingly boring.
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« Reply #11 on: 11:51:33, 26-04-2008 » |
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Now here's a season:Shame someone doesn't seem to know a hanger from a hangar though. Now Heinz Holliger conducting the Berlin Phil in Schumann 1 is something I would pay ready money to see. As is pretty much anyone conducting the Zimmermann Requiem für einen jungen Dichter.
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« Reply #12 on: 12:31:36, 27-04-2008 » |
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An unsympathetic person taking a less than charitable view may very well conclude that his rehearsals at least are unremittingly boring.
I think I may have missed a joke, but the only rehearsal I ever saw Simon Rattle give was one of the most exciting rehearsals I've ever seen in my life. Dead honest.
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« Reply #13 on: 21:21:59, 27-04-2008 » |
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« Reply #14 on: 17:53:32, 28-04-2008 » |
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That was then and this is now, but I remember sitting in on a rehearsal of the Schubert 10 completion (can't remember who did it) , clearly a contractual obligation for a ropey score, but Rattle breathed life into it. As I mentioned before, my secondary school was the venue for his very first pro appearance having won the Bournemouth Symphony conductors comp as then was, and ditto hooking we cross-legged on the parquet. He always struck me as Germanic in his gesture and style so that the BPO would be a natural home-I 'd have thought plenty of other good German bands might seek his services-your Bambergs, Bavarian Radios etc.
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