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Milly Jones
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« on: 20:29:54, 18-09-2008 »

I remember being taught in history lesson that a monkey had been tried in a Court of law in Newcastle many years ago and was sentenced to hang. That upset me greatly at the time but I felt comforted that we'd moved on since then.

But....at least they didn't execute it.

CAIRO (AFP) - An Egyptian donkey has been jailed for stealing corn on the cob from a field belonging to an agricultural research institute in the Nile Delta, local media reported on Thursday.

 
The ass and its owner were apprehended at a police checkpoint that had been set up after the institute's director complained that someone was stealing his crops, the state-owned Al-Ahram daily said.

The unnamed ungulate was found in possession of the institute's corn and a local judge sentenced him to 24 hours in prison. The man who had his ass thrown in jail got off with a fine of 50 Egyptian pounds (nine dollars, six euros).

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« Reply #1 on: 20:36:58, 18-09-2008 »

I remember being taught in history lesson that a monkey had been tried in a Court of law in Newcastle

Wasn't that Hartlepool; or is this another case, Milly?  The story I heard was that a monkey got loose and its gibberings were assumed to be French, so, never having seen a French person, the good burghers thought it was a spy and put it on trial. 

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« Reply #2 on: 20:53:50, 18-09-2008 »

I remember being taught in history lesson that a monkey had been tried in a Court of law in Newcastle

Wasn't that Hartlepool; or is this another case, Milly?  The story I heard was that a monkey got loose and its gibberings were assumed to be French, so, never having seen a French person, the good burghers thought it was a spy and put it on trial. 



I may have got it wrong, but I understood it had been tried for witchcraft. 
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« Reply #3 on: 20:56:36, 18-09-2008 »

I've just googled it and you seem to be correct.  It was Hartlepool.  I wonder where I got my impression from?  Unless there was another - but a quick google didn't locate it.
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« Reply #4 on: 21:04:42, 18-09-2008 »

I've just googled it and you seem to be correct.  It was Hartlepool.  I wonder where I got my impression from?  Unless there was another - but a quick google didn't locate it.


Goats Imprisoned! http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/10/2360292.htm
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« Reply #5 on: 21:06:38, 18-09-2008 »

I remember being taught in history lesson that a monkey had been tried in a Court of law in Newcastle

Wasn't that Hartlepool; or is this another case, Milly?  The story I heard was that a monkey got loose and its gibberings were assumed to be French, so, never having seen a French person, the good burghers thought it was a spy and put it on trial. 



I may have got it wrong, but I understood it had been tried for witchcraft. 

It could be a completely different story, Milly.  I first heard the Hartlepool one from a native of that area.  Here's an official version:

http://www.thisishartlepool.co.uk/history/thehartlepoolmonkey.asp

Your story about the corn takes me back to the aftermath of the great English hurricane of 1987.  Several days after the storm my then girlfriend and I were out for a country walk and we saw a field of corn devastated by the wind.  She decided to duck under the wire and fetch a few cobs for dinner (there were literally thousands of them just rotting).  Along came an irate farmer who informed us this was his property so I said, very politely, "would you like us to put it back in the field".  "No" he said "I think I'll call the police".  I still wonder what kind of response he might have got from the local constabulary, but we didn't hang around to find out!

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« Reply #6 on: 21:34:29, 18-09-2008 »

Apparently the donkey was trained. And Mexico seems to be in on the imprisoning animals act too.

CAIRO, September 18 (RIA Novosti) - A donkey from the northeast Egyptian city of Tanta has been sentenced to 24 hours in jail for stealing corn from a field owned by a local agricultural research center, the Al-Ahram weekly said on Thursday.
The head of the research center called police after corncobs began vanishing from a field. The police laid a trap for the corn thief and subsequently caught a local donkey red-handed.
Local media reported that the donkey's owner, a local farmer, then admitted to training the animal to steal corncobs.
A local judge sentenced the donkey to 24 hours in jail and fined the farmer 50 Egyptian pounds ($9.5).
This May, a donkey from the southern Mexican state of Chiapas was found guilty of assault and battery and thrown behind bars after he attacked two men.
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« Reply #7 on: 02:36:04, 19-09-2008 »

I suppose the next step will be appointing animals to official positions in government?
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« Reply #8 on: 02:55:21, 19-09-2008 »

I suppose the next step will be appointing animals to official positions in government?

Wait, so substituting prominent figures for animals is the next step?

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« Reply #9 on: 04:18:47, 19-09-2008 »

I remember being taught in history lesson that a monkey had been tried in a Court of law in Newcastle

Wasn't that Hartlepool

That would explain a lot.
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« Reply #10 on: 09:06:33, 19-09-2008 »

I remember being taught in history lesson that a monkey had been tried in a Court of law in Newcastle

Wasn't that Hartlepool

That would explain a lot.

Thank you.
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« Reply #11 on: 09:14:27, 19-09-2008 »

Apparently, people from Hartlepool (my mum tends to pronounce the 'Hartle' as if it rhymes with 'martle') are/were known as 'monkey-hangers' but rarely to their faces.
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« Reply #12 on: 09:16:45, 19-09-2008 »

I've never heard anyone say Hartle Pool.  I've only ever heard Hartleepool.  Roll Eyes 
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« Reply #13 on: 09:20:42, 19-09-2008 »

It comes from the French (IIRC) so it's really Hart-le-pool, like Chester-le-Street.
Hence the pronunciation (which I'd personally reproduce as Hartly pool)
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« Reply #14 on: 09:52:49, 19-09-2008 »

Popping back to animal matters, this thread has reminded me of the film The Hour of the Pig that I saw some years back. After a bit of googling here's what Wiki has to say about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hour_of_the_Pig
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