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« Reply #15 on: 11:30:27, 13-05-2007 » |
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Yes - the gambling scene, where Candide is reunited with Cunegonde.
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« Reply #16 on: 12:45:54, 13-05-2007 » |
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Would the Mascagni be Le maschere? As it's based on Commedia dell'Arte characters?
Another Wolf Ferrari would be Il campiello.
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« Reply #17 on: 13:01:04, 13-05-2007 » |
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Yes, DB, both of those are correct, although Reiner also identified Wolf-Ferrari's I Quattro Rusteghi (The School for Fathers) as having a Venetian setting.
I think all of the Venetian settings I'd thought of have now been mentioned. Any thoughts on these operas? R_T mentioned how he found the Wolf-Ferrari 'eminently forgettable' and I know he doesn't think particularly highly of 'I Due Foscari' although I do recall a successful production at the ROH in the 90s with Dennis O'Neill, June Anderson and Vladimir Chernov. OK, it's not up to Boccanegra in its depiction of an elderly Doge, but there's much touching music there. The Venetian aspect is mainly conveyed through the power of the Council of Ten, but there's also an engaging off-stage regatta, and a chorus of people cheering on the winning gondolier.
I've never seen La Gioconda, but the music is super, red-blooded stuff, with vivid characters, such as the spy Barnaba, who's probably close to Scarpia, in my view, for 'baddy' status.
'Death in Venice' is an opera I've tried to get into with radio broadcasts, without much success. I suspect, like all opera really, it needs to be seen to be fully appreciated. Perhaps I should try and get a ticket for the upcoming ENO performances.
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« Reply #18 on: 13:28:14, 13-05-2007 » |
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Le maschere is meant to have a dodgy reputation. Heralded as Macagni's latest masterpiece, simultaneous Italian premieres, and then the major turkey of his career. Anyone know it?
(Not that poor old Mascagni had much of a career in one sense. One vivid, corny pot boiler at the start and then never managing to have another hit like it. Tough.)
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« Reply #19 on: 13:30:39, 13-05-2007 » |
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I honestly went to the Wolf-Ferrari with the highest hopes, as it had a good cast and a famous director (Boris Pokrovsky). However, I'm afraid I found the music very disappointing, the pace is very slow, and apart from a largish scena for the leading comic bass-baritone, there wasn't much to keep the interest going. With DUE FOSCARI it's rather the other way around... the music works desperately hard, but the plot (by Byron!) is utterly leaden.... will Foscari's son be allowed to return from banishment, or not? By Act III I'd lost the will to live, and whether Foscari Jnr returned or not no longer seemed to matter It was, in fairness, abysmally staged - perhaps it's capable of a better effect than that? Foscari Snr has a nice Act III aria, but I fear it's not an opera likely to make a return to the regular repertoire any time soon I Due Foscari, - Novaya Opera, Moscow, Prod Raku, Cond Korobov
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« Reply #21 on: 16:14:41, 13-05-2007 » |
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Ho, IGI! I have the Cerquetti GIOCONDA, too: pity it isn't note complete. So is the Cetra Callas (I haven't heard her EMI recording). I was about to order the Pavarotti when I hesitated on seeing a Domingo set with Urmana (EMI): anyone know it?
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« Reply #22 on: 16:20:48, 13-05-2007 » |
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The Cerquetti Gioconda is great, isn't it? Red-blooded performances, which I think this opera needs; sure, del Monaco really does belt out 'Cielo e mar' but the Act I duet with Bastianini as Barnaba is thrilling. The sound's a bit fierce/ 'in your face' compared to other Decca recordings of the period (1958) but I suppose that's in keeping with the opera!
I don't know the Domingo recording, although I recall that reviews weren't too good when it first appeared. The Bartoletti is attractive due to the strength in casting - Caballé, Pavarotti, Milnes, Baltsa, Ghiaurov.
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« Reply #23 on: 16:25:42, 13-05-2007 » |
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I adore Cerquetti's voice, and I have my eyes on her live Elisabetta on the Andromeda label I've heard so much about Milanov's Gioconda, another CD I should acquire of this super opera.
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Il duolo della terra nel chiostro ancor ci segue, solo del cor la guerra in ciel si calmera! E la voce di Carlo! E Carlo Quinto! Mio padre! O ciel!
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« Reply #24 on: 16:35:08, 13-05-2007 » |
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Yes, I've bought that Votto Don Carlo on Andromeda earlier in the year - more than acceptable sound for a live '56 recording - and Cerquetti is in good voice. It comes with a considerable bonus of about 30 mins of Bastianini in a 1955 Met performance.
I also have Cerquetti in a live Ernani - what a cast! - Cerquetti, Mario del Monaco, Ettore Bastianini, Boris Christoff, conducted by Mitropoulos - from the Bel Canto Society, with the subtitle 'Five Titans at their Peak'!
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« Reply #25 on: 07:18:32, 14-05-2007 » |
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Here's a little question for a Monday morning for you... ... Glinka's first opera was known as IVAN SUSANIN during the USSR era. What was Glinka's original title for the opera? (be careful )
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« Reply #26 on: 07:30:05, 14-05-2007 » |
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Here's a little question for a Monday morning for you... ... Glinka's first opera was known as IVAN SUSANIN during the USSR era. What was Glinka's original title for the opera? (be careful ) I have a vague feeling that it was called Ivan Susanin in the first place - wasn't calling it A Life for the Tsar a piece of political crawling by Glinka? Not sure - bit early for brain to be functioning ...
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #27 on: 12:29:20, 14-05-2007 » |
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A good start, but there's one item of information still yet to come... any other entries?
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« Reply #28 on: 12:51:47, 14-05-2007 » |
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The only thing I can find (Taruskin) is that it WAS called A Life for the Tsar and subtitled a ‘Patriotic heroic-tragic opera’ in five acts (or four acts with epilogue)
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« Reply #29 on: 18:09:38, 14-05-2007 » |
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My sources say that the original title of the opera was to be Ivan Susanin, after the hero, but when Nicholas I attended a rehearsal, Glinka changed the title to A Life for the Tsar as a monarchy-pleasing gesture.
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