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Author Topic: The R3 Opera Quiz - After the Supper Interval  (Read 23591 times)
Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #570 on: 19:02:31, 30-04-2008 »

A clue about the unpleasant surprise over breakfast - a disobedient human body part is found in a loaf of bread...
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« Reply #571 on: 22:38:46, 30-04-2008 »

That's a good clue - the body part wouldn't be a Nose would it?
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« Reply #572 on: 10:27:34, 01-05-2008 »

You've got it on the Nose, Harpy! Smiley

New Quiz Question for May 1st!

Tell us about the (many!) operas in which the servants outwit or overthrow the masters?


[I wonder why opera audiences have found this such a potent theme across the centuries, eh? Wink ]
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« Reply #573 on: 11:29:04, 01-05-2008 »

For starters:

The various operas based on Beaumarchais' Figaro plays are the obvious starting point.  So, Le Nozze di Figaro, the various Barber of Seville operas.

Andrea Chenier

Maskarade

Die Entfuhrung aus dem Serail

The Midsummer Marriage
(junior employees rather than servants, but certainly involved in King Fisher's downfall)

Interesting that the servants are often assisting others to reject authority - typically young lovers to get past their intransigent elders
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« Reply #574 on: 12:04:59, 01-05-2008 »

La Serva Padrona? (I don't know that one but it sounds as if it should fit the category.)

And Powder her Face. They don't exactly outwit or overthrow her, but the staff get uppity.
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« Reply #575 on: 12:32:58, 01-05-2008 »

POWDER HER FACE is an unusual one, isn't it?  She likes a "bit of rough", but those on her own level are uninteresting Sad I'm also unsure how to read the ending...  she may have gone down, but is she unbowed? Wink   (Of course, today she would have sold her memoirs to the News Of The Screws and made a mint).

Talking of which, let us hear more of a mill-owner's wife who dumps him for a shopfloor worker?

An elderly aristo apparently murdered by the servant who was meekly serving him in Act 1?
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« Reply #576 on: 12:53:18, 01-05-2008 »

Alas, Rigoletto fails to outwit or overthrow the Duke.  If he had, perhaps the opera could have been a light-hearted comedy.
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« Reply #577 on: 12:56:03, 01-05-2008 »


Talking of which, let us hear more of a mill-owner's wife who dumps him for a shopfloor worker?

Ah yes, Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk; again, an employee rather than a servant as such.  Clearly this quiz embraces wage-slaves of all descriptions.
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« Reply #578 on: 13:57:52, 01-05-2008 »

again, an employee rather than a servant as such. 

It's an interesting distinction, PW.  Leskov's novel dates from 1865, four years after the Emancipation Of Serfdom Act (1861).  His theme of "masters and servants" was clearly a topical one, as many in Russia were now experiencing the results of the Act, whose repercussions had proceeded in some unexpected directions.  (Many serfs had become bankrupts, as a result of their former owners being unwilling or unable to pay them wages, and driving them from the homes they had previously held as indentured serfs. Chekhov's father, for example, was an emancipated serf who went bankrupt in 1876, unable to manage his money or a planned business as a shopkeeper). 

However, the story is set in the era prior to 1861, as Leskov states that the events happened "a number of years ago", and refers to Sergey's status as a serf several times (both overtly, and through vocabulary that indicates Sergey's relationship to the Izmailovs - terms of address, etc).  The fact that he'd been a runaway serf from elsewhere further diminishes his social status - he was the lowest of the low.

It's a moot point whether the DSCH opera retains Sergey's status as a serf, or whether the libretto has made him an employee?  I would say the former, because of the vocabulary used?   And also that everyone would have known Leskov as an author from the days of serfdom. (Leskov has a rather "Dickensian" reputation as a social-reformer whose medium was the novel). But it's a matter of point-of-view, in the end.
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« Reply #579 on: 14:53:13, 01-05-2008 »

To be honest, I'd completely forgotten that the source for the opera predated the abolition of serfdom in Russia.  I suppose you could read it either way.
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« Reply #580 on: 15:19:45, 01-05-2008 »

I suppose you could read it either way.

I'm sure you're right!  That very duality may have been part of the rationale behind the stinging critique in Pravda - although I fear it was actually an enormous kneejerk that didn't feel the need for any objectivity behind it Sad   It's interesting that DSCH's perfectly innocent, and even mostly tub-thumpingly on-side ballet BRIGHT BROOK (aka LIMPID STREAM, aka  SVETLIE RUCHEI) of 1932 got banned along with LADY MAC... allegedly for "mocking" the proletariat.

Still looking for my elderly aristo, murdered by his own servant?  Clue - this is a subplot of the opera in which it appears, the aristo is the father of the opera's heroine.  We never see him again after Act One, and only learn of his death from reported speech later.
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« Reply #581 on: 19:31:21, 01-05-2008 »

Always worth remembering that the emancipation of the serfs in Russia occurred before the abolition of slavery in the US.
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« Reply #582 on: 09:26:52, 02-05-2008 »

I don't know my Strinberg that well, but presumably Alwyn's Miss Julie has a servant who gets the better of his boss's daughter in one sense.
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« Reply #583 on: 10:20:26, 02-05-2008 »

Despina in Cosi manipulates her wretched employers.  If Fiordiligi and Dorabella weren't moping about romantically, they might have had the backbone to sack the mercenary little bitch for nicking their chocolate before she had a chance to play havoc with their emotional lives.
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« Reply #584 on: 20:14:55, 02-05-2008 »

Bravo for the COSI mention Smiley

To put you out of your misery, the valet who kills his master is Thierry in CARMELITES... in Act One he has already scared Blanche in a corridor, but the Marquis de Force tells his son that Thierry's been their faithful servant for years.  It later transpires (when Blanche runs back to her old home, where she's confronted by the New Mother Superior who has followed her) that the servants have joined the revolution, and Thierry has "dealt with" the old Marquis.
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