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Author Topic: The Ring on SACD  (Read 3947 times)
Stanley Stewart
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« Reply #30 on: 17:06:37, 07-06-2007 »

You beat me to it by a few minutes Parsifal!

The last production I saw at The Coli would have been in the early 80s when Gwynne Howell  sang  Sachs.      And, yes, I also have a memorable off-air of "Mastersingers" at Covent Garden with Haitink conducting - prior to the closure - with Thomas Allen as Beckmesser.     

Totally beside the point but I still recall my delight at following a tall and gangly Gwynne Howell, accompanied by a short but swarthy Jon Vickers down Long Acre early one evening.    Wish I'd been able to sketch!
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« Reply #31 on: 19:34:44, 07-06-2007 »

I have note in my score of seeing Meistersinger at the ENO in May 1989, with Gwynne Howell (Sachs), Jane Eaglen (Eva), Alberto Remedios (Walther - in a distinctly dodgy wig, I recall), Alan Opie (Beckmesser), John Connell (Pogner), Bonaventura Bottone (David), Anne-Marie Owens (Magdalene), conducted Elder.  I don't know if it has been done since.
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« Reply #32 on: 19:39:54, 07-06-2007 »

Is it because nobody is willing to produce a new translation, or what?
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« Reply #33 on: 12:26:24, 08-06-2007 »

Thanks, Opi. But I've always thought that the RING is the most ambitious operatic undertaking, and ENO mounted a new production of the cycle not long ago. With stars like Tomlinson and Allen around, is MASTERSINGERS really too much for this company? It doesn't have to be a SACD-orientated production!
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« Reply #34 on: 13:11:39, 08-06-2007 »

Well, in that case, ENO may do it either in concert (NOT just a single performance!), or one act a day (A Wagnerian TRITTICO) Cheesy
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« Reply #35 on: 15:51:13, 08-06-2007 »

I suspect, Parsifal, that cost is the main deterrent in any proposed staging of "Mastersingers"; even facilitating, as you suggest, an act per day would make the enterprise even more expensive.   Even a one-off concert performance would be uneconomical and additional performances, spread over several days, would only add to the cost.     Perhaps the new MD to ENO may consider a new production with the same creativity the company have brought to "Death in Venice".

Enthused by this thread, I again watched an off-air video of "Goodbye, George!", the 1985 Farewell ENO Gala to Lord Harewood    We discussed this delightful evening on another thread, a few months ago, in another place.   I have great affection for this performance as it included many principals from the 1960/70s and it reminded me of the loving and loyal audience which also increased as Sadler's Wells segued into the ENO.    Perhaps the later Power House "lot" strained relations a bit but they also brought an era of innovation, apart from the fetish of stark design and the use of greatcoats!

Norman Bailey featured in the evening but Gwynne Howell sang Sachs in the Act 3 monologue in his workshop.   Rather touching to see the same props from the 1960's.    A delicious and stylish sextet from "The Merry Widow" led by Emile Belcourt - well remembered as Loge.     Jessye Norman was a surprise guest; Elizabeth's greeting from "Tannhauser";      Sarah Walker as "Gloriana" reminded George Harewood, in conversation with Jonathan Miller,of the setbacks in the first production at Covent Garden, followed by the opera's growing reputation, leading to a big success in the ENO's tour of America.    A useful exchange of views on the advantages/ follies of opera in English.   The highlight, for me, was Josephine Barstow's Pace, Pace, as it reminded me of the original 1978 production of "The Force of Destiny".     She brought the house down - and the house next door as well - with her thrilling performance.

A video which I speedily transferred to DVD. 
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« Reply #36 on: 19:11:07, 13-06-2007 »

Re Msg 19: I maestri cantori di Norimberga has (have?) finally arrived! Being so enthusiastic about Wagner (and opera, in general) in translation, I find this Italian concert performance of Wagner's most German music drama even more thrilling than the Gui Parsifal (starring Callas and Christoff). Not only Taddei (Sachs), Christoff (Pogner) and Capecchi (Beckmesser) but also the chorus and the rest of the cast (totally obscure, except for Silvio Maionica, the Nightwatchman) sing with heart and soul (no doubt having fun with Maestro Riccardo Vagner!). OK, I admit that I occasionally (well, sometimes!) forgot that I was hearing Wagner (Handel, Mozart, Donizetti, Verdi and even Puccini!), so what? Only a few minor cuts, no Italian libretto (Cry), and bonus tracks of Christoff singing Wotan's farewell in (alas) German ( Wink). Above all (surprise of all surprises), the recording is in stereo (Turin 8.2.1962): clean and fresh, as if taped yesterday (ideal soloist-chorus-orchestra balance: Matacic conducts superbly, personally alerting me to passages in the score that I have never heard, or heard differently, before). As with other Myto issues, the price is shocking (though I got my copy for only 30 bucks from the Amazon Marketplace), but more so the performance: a Wagnerian Cosi fan tutte, no less!

PS I hope SK doesn't come across this amateurish review, knowing his views on opera in translation Lips sealed. (Just ordered a German DON CARLOS: Greindl as Philip and DFD as Posa  Shocked.)
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« Reply #37 on: 20:19:04, 13-06-2007 »

Returning to the Ring, I've listened to Rheingold a couple of times now and I like what Haenchen has managed; the 'pedal notes' that open the prelude are great and are clearly audible as we rise through the waters of the Rhine. Good Rhinemaidens. I think that Alberich (Werner van Mechelen - different from the other operas where Gunther von Kannen takes the role) is a little 'light' voice-wise and doesn't sound terribly menacing, certainly not compared to Ekkehard Wlaschiha on the Levine set, who spits out his curse.
The Wotan of Albert Dohmen is a very good characterisation - I look forward to hearing him in Walküre. Chris Merritt is the big surprise, as I posted earlier - a tenor more likely to be heard in Italian rep (he was Muti's Arrigo in Vespri), he sings well, with more power than I'd have thought usual in the role of Loge. That final Entry into Valhalla is quicker, lighter as the gods almost dance their way across the rainbow bridge, with no great hint of the troubles to come - much better than Levine's plod.

Walküre and Götterdämmerung both arrived today. I shall have to wait until the weekend to have a proper listen. Opliec, what do you make of the Götterdämmerung so far? Parsifal, have your sets appeared yet?
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« Reply #38 on: 20:24:46, 13-06-2007 »

Not yet, IGI: I'm awaiting them (with some DON CARLOs!) eagerly. Merritt is one of my favourite Rossini tenors: I was surprised to find him on the DG/Boulez MOSES as Aron and can't wait to hear his Loge.
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« Reply #39 on: 22:16:54, 17-06-2007 »

I've listened to Götterdämmerung a couple of times now and it's very impressive.

I've been lu-king around for the Haenchen* Götterdämmerung, but I've never found it anywhere. Doesn't seem to exist. Where did people locate it?

*a striking resemblance to Hähnchen, which means chicken...
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« Reply #40 on: 00:31:26, 18-06-2007 »

This is the cheapest I can find online for the Haenchen Götterdämmerung, eruanto:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000KG4BAO/202-5913406-5145461


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« Reply #41 on: 13:30:59, 18-06-2007 »

ooo cheers IGI!  Grin

I'll have to think about getting it. Certainly sounds like it's worth doing, though.
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« Reply #42 on: 23:30:39, 21-06-2007 »

More Ring reactions: I’ve really enjoyed listening to Die Walküre over the last few days. John Keyes’ Siegmund is a new name to me – a strong, baritonal voice which provides a nice contrast to the lighter tenor of Stig Andersen in the later operas as Siegfried. His Winterstürme is a fine, flowing account, helped by Haenchen’s tempo, and he and Margiono bring Act I to an ecstatic close.
Albert Dohmen continues to impress as Wotan. I’d like to see him in this role (have only seen him as Scarpia on stage before). He pays good attention to the text – his Act II narration is compelling – and he is in good form for his farewell in Act III; great to hear the hammer blows as he summons Loge too! The Ride of the Valkyries is a swift, exhilarating one and I enjoyed Linda Watson’s contributions as Brünnhilde – I look forward to diving into Götterdämmerung over the weekend ad hearing more of her and Andersen together.
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« Reply #43 on: 11:49:13, 26-06-2007 »

I’ve had a couple of listens to Götterdämmerung now as well, and have come to the same conclusions as opilec. I’ve usually found my interest waning after Walküre, but this flows along, gripping the listener in a way I’d not experienced in this opera before. Timings are quite revealing; Levine, in what is generally considered to be the best opera in his DG Ring, takes 270 minutes; Solti takes 265, which I found quite surprising; Haenchen’s got them both licked in 245 minutes! I don’t know how this compares to other versions, but the tempi really propel the action on. The orchestral contributions are very fine – the big moments come off well, to my ears – and there’s some good work from the brass.

Linda Watson and Stig Andersen continue to impress. Andersen is not an especially young tenor – why have I not heard of him before? He sings with real intelligence and beauty of tone. Kurt Rydl is suitably menacing as Hagen.

I agree about the placement of the break in Act I – after the prologue would surely have been better, but it’s a minor grumble. This has been a most insightful, entertaining Ring journey and one I shall be repeating often.

I shall look forward to Parsifal's reactions when his set arrives...
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« Reply #44 on: 12:22:52, 26-06-2007 »

Thanks, IGI and Opi, for your feedback. My cycle will have to wait until other items with 4-6 weeks availability in the same order are available  Cry But I'll post my input as soon as they arrive.
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