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Author Topic: News flash: Terfel pulls out of ROH Ring  (Read 1521 times)
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« Reply #15 on: 23:10:41, 03-09-2007 »

I hadn't heard that, so thank you for informing me - I knew Connell had been in very poor health and had stopped singing, but I wasn't aware he had died.

I think Terfel can be stunning, and have heard him as Wotan (with Gergiev and Mariinsky) - but I have long, long regard for John Tom, and even now in his days as a "grey fox" he can still teach the youngsters a thing or two...  about diction, for one Smiley   It will be a different Wotan to the one he sang 15 years earlier, of course...  but that has its own interest too.  He has talked about possibly producing operas himself in the future... that would be interesting as well Smiley   Sadly I won't get to see any of this, it's all too far away and vastly beyond reasonable means for me!
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« Reply #16 on: 10:09:05, 04-09-2007 »

I wouldn't have said no to Robert Hale as a replacement for Terfel - he was very moving when he stood in at the last minute in Walkure last time round. But I'm a big fan of John Tom too. Is he really going to sing all the Hagens as well as the Wotan/Wanderers? If so, I too am glad I'm going to Cycle 1. I might pop down to William Hill and pop a tenner on Domingo pulling out as well....
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« Reply #17 on: 10:30:54, 04-09-2007 »

It's true that they're going to need a fresh Hagen,  probably for the entire run.  Taking on three cycles doing Wotan is already asking the superhuman of Tomlinson, and clearly he can't sing Hagen in the same show he's doing Wotan.  Hagen, along with Alberich, is notoriously a "voice-buster" role, and Hagens are certainly not ten-a-penny... it's also a thankless role, with a load of music to be learnt for very little exposure, and you can be certain you won't get a mention in the reviews (unless you mess it up).

Pappano is said by the Grauniad today to be "incensed", and who can blame him?  With two leading Wotans in the run, one covering the other, no-one can really say they didn't make good provision for adverse circumstances.   I will be surprised if Terfel sings at the ROH again any time soon.
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« Reply #18 on: 11:04:50, 04-09-2007 »

Rydl is a super performer and easily up alongside the rest of the cast - I doubt anyone will be disappointed  Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: 11:14:48, 04-09-2007 »

Rydl is a super performer and easily up alongside the rest of the cast - I doubt anyone will be disappointed  Smiley

He was certainly an imposing figure in the Nederlandse Opera 'Götterdämmerung'.  I was looking forward to seeing JT acting the part I heard him sing at the Proms but, that apart, KR will do just fine.
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« Reply #20 on: 11:20:41, 04-09-2007 »

Rydl was good in Wozzeck too. I suppose they will have to find another Hagen for the other cycles.

It's not that I don't want to see Tomlinson do Wotan, but I think they are asking a bit much of him, especially if you include the extra "preview" cycle (which I assume he's doing as well).
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« Reply #21 on: 12:18:47, 04-09-2007 »

Anyone else get the feeling Terfel really aint that bothered about Wagner - or opera in general, come to that?

There was a rather unpleasant docu on him a few years back, where a lot of talking heads (one of whom rated Terfel as better than Hans Hotter) expressed the fear that he wouldn't really explore the potential of his voice. 

Looks like it's all coming to pass. 
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« Reply #22 on: 12:29:35, 04-09-2007 »

And while we're on the subject, does anyone genuinely believe the story about a 'problem' with one of BT's children?

As the Guardian acknowledges, the ROH normally takes these things in good spirit; the Terfel announcement, however, sounds genuinely aggrieved.

Sounds to me like something much worse happened and this is being trotted out as a cover story.
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« Reply #23 on: 12:46:47, 04-09-2007 »

Sounds to me like something much worse happened and this is being trotted out as a cover story.

I'd taken it as read that it wasn't the actual reason, in fact Wink  According to the Grauniad BT attended nine hours of rehearsal (presumably 3 x 3-hour calls) and then withdrew. I bet the fly-on-the-wall during those rehearsals could make a bit with his story? Wink
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« Reply #24 on: 13:22:44, 04-09-2007 »

And while we're on the subject, does anyone genuinely believe the story about a 'problem' with one of BT's children?

As the Guardian acknowledges, the ROH normally takes these things in good spirit; the Terfel announcement, however, sounds genuinely aggrieved.

Sounds to me like something much worse happened and this is being trotted out as a cover story.

S_K,

I've often wondered whether you've a tendency to overindulge in a rather tabloid, or even 'Hello' view of the opera world, with either no recognition of the internal and external pressures that weigh upon the people who dedicate themselves to a demanding, even punishing, régime of high pressure, or a else rather callous willingness to ignore such matters for the sake of prurient sensationalism.

I'd like to remind you of the recent tragedy of Jerry Hadley, and point out that nobody else can know the point at which an individual finds circumstances (for whatever reason) beginning to become unbearable. I've worked alongside very successful performers who have nevertheless had nervous breakdowns (one, distressingly, on stage in the middle of a performance), and even a handful who commited suicide, and I'd like it to be known that I feel that conjectures about the reasons for any artist's problems are at best undignified and surely better kept private rather then bandied about a public forum.

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« Reply #25 on: 13:31:00, 04-09-2007 »

Hello Ron!

I do entirely agree with what you have said - the pressure of "stardom", combined with stage-fright, being asked to do unreasonable or impossible things etc can cause performers to "go to pieces".  I too have seen it happen in front of me (and had to help in getting the person involved off-stage).

However... Terfel has pulled-out having already started to rehearse.  Surely he must have known the situation prior to rehearsals starting?  I agree that it's possible that something blew-up within the 2-3 days of rehearsal that took place. But the wording of Pappano's comments - and Pappano is a reasonable man with whom singers enjoy working - seems to indicate that all is not the way it may appear?
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« Reply #26 on: 13:44:41, 04-09-2007 »

He does seem to have a bit of a reputation as a flouncer, doesn't he, although I suppose we should give him the benefit of the doubt, in case there really is a family problem.

He does keep on saying that he wants to give up singing opera in a few years, doesn't he? http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/eac5f0c6-e88b-11db-b2c3-000b5df10621.html I can see the life is pretty wearing but it must be odd to be so good at something and yet not want to do it.
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« Reply #27 on: 13:51:42, 04-09-2007 »

Hi, Rei.

Isn't the second or third day of rehearsals the habitual dip? As I said above, I'm not interested in conjecture concerning the reasons, but it seems feasible to me that a performer's doubts are stronger after the first day's rehearsal, and that he may have thought he was ready, and discovered that he wasn't fit/in the right frame of mind/whatever only after a couple of sessions. Not perfect timing, but better by far than having to pull out later on in the proceedings, or even cracking up in medias res.
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« Reply #28 on: 14:18:33, 04-09-2007 »

Hi, Rei.

Isn't the second or third day of rehearsals the habitual dip?

It depends whose rehearsals they are, I suppose  Wink   Wink   Wink

I know and have worked with Warner, including some very rough times on punishing tours ("fish'n'chips in a boarding house in Truro, is this what Jonas thinks of us, eh?"), and if there is one thing I learned from him more than any other,  it's that good humour, encouragement and utter faith in your cast (who must go out there and do what he and I cannot) can produce spectacular performances from even the most unlikely of artistes.  I remember one occasion (at ENO) when he went to Opera Planning (the "casting people" at ENO, known throughout the building as "Opera Bungling") and browbeat them until he was allowed to cast a singer they believed to be a "lame duck".  The psychology worked - the singer involved turned-in a phenomenal performance. I have also seen him take-up the cause of performers treated unfairly by the Management. He invariably arrives at rehearsals with packets of biscuits, or a Lemon Gateau of his own devising.  He actively builds-up a "brood" feeling amongst his cast - admittedly sometimes causing ructions with other shows on stage at the same time ("Now you see if you'd been in my show you'd have been properly rehearsed, mate, so Tom Sutcliffe wouldn't have had a go at you").  But without exception, even when working on touring shows cast out of members of the chorus (we did a touring MAGIC FLUTE that way) he hypnotises his performers into believing that they are not only equal to the task,  but are involved in a show which is going to knock the socks off everyone who sees it.

So I doubt that BT's reasons for withdrawing were connected with production wrangles, although there are always exceptions.  He's sung the thing anyhow, in its separate parts - it's not like this was a first rehearsal with unknown personalities, or a debut in a role.

Let's hope that whatever personal reasons may have been involved, that they are swiftly resolved with a successful outcome.
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« Reply #29 on: 14:50:56, 04-09-2007 »

At the Wells, 'Opera Planning' was one person. Once the department was relocated to the upstairs warrens at the Coli, its denizens bred like rabbits. The more of them there were, the more the simple errors proliferated....

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