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Author Topic: James Macmillan's opera, Sacrifice  (Read 693 times)
John W
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« on: 18:17:12, 18-09-2007 »

I've just booked for James MacMillan's new opera The Sacrifice, which for some obscure reason (Capital of Culture, I suppose) is being performed first in Liverpool.


I had done a search on the forum for James Macmillan and found that old Grumpy Room message of Mary's  Smiley

Mary, did you see this opera? Reason I ask is that it opens this weekend in Cardiff and I thought THAT would be the premiere? Is Liverpool later in the tour?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,2167792,00.html#article_continue

I've not heard much of Macmillan's orchestral music and being Scottish and similar age I'm intrigued what this opera will be like. Are there any clips of his other opera works on-line?

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« Reply #1 on: 19:27:43, 18-09-2007 »

I got this wrong, sorry. I thought from the publicity that the Liverpool performance was the premiere, but as you say it's in Cardiff. There is one performance in Liverpool on October 16th, annoyingly on the same night as a very nice chamber concert.

I don't know much about MacMillan, but the chance of seeing a new opera anywhere near me was too good to miss - so I'm intrigued, too, though I'm not sure I'm going to find the subject appealing.
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« Reply #2 on: 19:35:58, 18-09-2007 »

There's an article in the Times' art supplement today, it's set in a post-civil war country where order has collapsed and there's a chance to heal the wounds..... so could be heavy going.
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« Reply #3 on: 20:49:08, 18-09-2007 »

 A posting in TOP says that a 50 min BBC documentary on the story behind James MacMillan's 'The Sacrifice' is scheduled for transmission on Saturday, 6 October.
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« Reply #4 on: 20:57:58, 18-09-2007 »

The only other MacMillan opera (Ines de Castro) was broadcast on R3: dubbed CDs of the radio performance are available (at a price);

http://www.scottishmusiccentre.com/db/CART/product_details.php?product_id=4783

I'm a bit ambivalent about his music, feeling (much as I do with Turnage and Adès) that the initial promise is by now perhaps diluted and that there's a tendency for much of the individual sound world which marked him out at the start of his career to become a cliché, rather than a thumb-print; don't get me wrong, there's some of his music that really works for me, but I no longer become automatically excited at the prospect of every new work.

I think I know by now where your musical tastes lie, John, and I'm far from convinced that you'll find J M's musical language very appealing: I'd love to be proved wrong. His librettist is his long-term collaborator the poet Michael Symmons Roberts: I don't know how much experience of the stage he has but I am aware that a fair proportion of the operas written in Britain over the last thirty years or so start off at a disadvantage because they aren't really stageworthy, and hope that this will not be the case this time. There's something fairly ironic about an avowedly contemporary composer setting opera in a very traditional way, which from what I've seen of the sets and libretto for Ines was almost certainly the case: modern drama has moved as far forward in its way as modern music; surely anyone creating a Music Theatre piece now should be exploiting newer techniques? (Although I wasn't able to see it, it's obvious that Stuart MacRae's recent piece was of a much more radical nature, for example, and Birtwistle's time at the National Theatre means that he is much more conversant with the stage and its possibilities than most of his contemporaries, although in fairness to him, even his first opera, Punch and Judy, written before his NT days really belongs on the stage.
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« Reply #5 on: 18:00:51, 20-09-2007 »

There was a piece on the new opera on PM (R4) today, with a few excerpts of music. It sounded quite (how do I put this?) familiarly MacMillan-ish, with a perhaps more unambiguous use of tonal material than usual, and also, I detect a fair amount of real passion. Wasn't too sure about the bits of sung dialogue I heard, but then I have a problem with that quite often!

There are some photos and a blog post by Eddie Mair here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/

I hope they're broadcasting this piece!
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« Reply #6 on: 18:08:39, 20-09-2007 »


I hope they're broadcasting this piece!

"The whole opera is on Radio Three on October 13th" is what it says on the blog, Stuart.  It sounds accessible enough from the few bits we heard.  I'm looking forward to hearing it.

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« Reply #7 on: 18:17:48, 20-09-2007 »

Thanks, I missed that bit of text at the bottom!
I'll be on holiday then so will have to entrust it to my radio's record timer...  Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: 12:31:34, 24-09-2007 »

The reviews so far seem a bit on the cynical side. The general view seems to be that it's a good evening in the theatre, but doesn't have much originality or depth.
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« Reply #9 on: 14:30:26, 24-09-2007 »

This one from the Financial Times is not cynical (although it belies several prejudices on the author's part).

I haven't seen The Sacrifice yet, but hope to do so later in the year.

It has to be said, though, that critics are exceptionally hard to please when it comes to new opera. If you try and do things differently, in a 'non-operatic' way, they complain about how things don't work (in other words, they don't work in the way 19th Century opera does). And if, like MacMillan (if the reviewers are to be believed), you try to fit your material to pre-existent operatic moulds, you are criticised for that, too. The critics seem incapable of entering the theatre with an open mind, free from specific expectations, and seem to be entirely unwilling to accept any mystery or ambiguity in an opera's story - something that is now widely accepted and relished by cinema audiences and reviewers.
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« Reply #10 on: 17:37:12, 26-11-2007 »

Anybody seen this or seeing it tonight?

I'm off to the London performance this evening, which I believe is the final one of the tour (Huh)

I know it's a bit short notice, but if anybody is going and fancies saying hello, I'm sitting in the second circle and will almost certainly be in the Harlequin (down the side street to the left of the main entrance as you face the theatre) with friends afterwards.  I've got brown hair and glasses and am wearing a light purple top.
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« Reply #11 on: 18:27:03, 26-11-2007 »

BUMP!...
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« Reply #12 on: 18:28:10, 26-11-2007 »

Wish I could be there, Ruth. There's already a thread on this so I've bumped it - might be an idea to re-post on that one, where we've already had a little discussion... Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: 18:43:18, 26-11-2007 »

I've merged the two separate threads, so that all the relevant posts are now here, in chronological order. RD
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« Reply #14 on: 18:53:19, 26-11-2007 »

Anybody seen this or seeing it tonight?

I saw it at Southampton, Ruth. The thread at the other place veered off-topic to anti-Catholic posturing, but ff and I tried to steer it back... http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio3/F7497567?thread=4607552&skip=120&show=20#p54854244
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