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« Reply #15 on: 14:42:06, 03-10-2007 » |
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Admittedly the system could still be fiddled by the determined (for example if you had two phones, and checked only one of them)
In that case I'm thinking there could be legal consequences if it rang, no?
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« Reply #16 on: 14:52:13, 03-10-2007 » |
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In that case I'm thinking there could be legal consequences if it rang, no?
I think part of the reason why Russia is so often micro-managed in this way is because "legal consequences" are impossibly expensive, inexact, and toothless in most cases. "Realpolitik" is favoured Thinking about this a second longer, I think the events for which it's put into place are concerts being commercially recorded, or broadcasts.
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« Reply #17 on: 15:23:42, 03-10-2007 » |
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Finally, a chap in front of me and to the right decided to illuminate his Blackberry during the darkness of the opening bars. I tapped him firmly on the shoulder but he ignored me and continued his business. He and his 3 companions then appeared to doze through most of the show, heads on each other's shoulders. However great the performance, I sometimes wonder these days why I spend the money, and don't just stay at home with my CDs and DVDs. My comiserations, ulrica. I'm not really au fait with all this new equipment but I presume a blackberry is what I'm seeing when people `switch off´their phones before a performance but the handset remains illuminated. At least five people in the row in front of me during the previews had such devices and one of them was forever consulting it during Götterdämmerung. He ignored what I presume were the protests of his neighbour. It's time the hall staff, who must be able to see this, were instructed to challenge and warn the offenders at a suitable break. But that won't happen, of course. As with so many of these issues of simple courtesy they seem far more worried that they´ll discourage rude people and seem to assume that the polite majority will just continue to tolerate such inconveniences. As for "He and his 3 companions then appeared to doze through most of the show...." I´m afraid prestigious events always attract a lot of people who aren´t interested in the performance but in being at prestigious events. The previews were probably the best bet for avoiding such prats; first nights, I fear, are the worst. Having said that, I´m now off to the first night of Tannhäuser in Hagen. Let´s see if the Germans are still beating us as far as manners are concerned. Perhaps not..on the train coming here I could have been in the UK for all the people with their feet on the seats!
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« Reply #18 on: 15:45:12, 03-10-2007 » |
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At least five people in the row in front of me during the previews had such devices and one of them was forever consulting it during Götterdämmerung. He ignored what I presume were the protests of his neighbour. It's time the hall staff, who must be able to see this, were instructed to challenge and warn the offenders at a suitable break. But that won't happen, of course. You must have had timid members of staff in your area of the auditorium, HtoHe. I was fairly recently in Balcony Standing, Row D (I forget which performance) when a woman in Balcony Row C kept her Blackberry brightly lit after the lights went down. The usher on duty had words immediately, and the problem was solved. However, this was a seating area which was easily accessible by said usher without causing undue disturbance to other audience members; it would be rather trickier in the middle of the Stalls, for example, and would have to be done (as you said) in a suitable break. Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a suitable break in "Rheingold"...
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« Reply #19 on: 16:01:12, 03-10-2007 » |
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but I presume a blackberry is what I'm seeing when people `switch off´their phones before a performance but the handset remains illuminated. "Blackberries" and their clones are basically a combined mobile phone and PDA (ie electonic diary-type gizmo) in one device. Usually they have much bigger screens than conventional mobile phones, and a tiny thumb-operated qwerty keyboard instead of the usual dialpad. In their place (which isn't in the theatre, ehem!) they are handy gizmos, and I've posted on this very forum using mine, whilst aboard a night train from Kiev to Moscow
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« Reply #20 on: 16:02:03, 03-10-2007 » |
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Wire up each and every seat to a low-level circuit. Monitor audience. Administer mild electric shock to blackberry-wielding optical hooligan (voltage to be increased until compliance gained).
(They don't like it up 'em!)
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« Reply #21 on: 16:02:56, 03-10-2007 » |
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Tommo's another Blackberrier, I believe.
Is it possible that some of the glows people are seeing are people consulting plot synopses on their PDAs?
(You know me, always believing the best of human nature.)
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« Reply #22 on: 16:26:32, 03-10-2007 » |
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Fer Chrissake, why don't people just turn their bloody mobiles OFF??!!! I don't get it.... Actually I usually leave mine at home.... When I'm in Edinburgh, I usually leave it in the hostel, and it hasn't been stolen yet.
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« Reply #23 on: 16:46:00, 03-10-2007 » |
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It does seem to be a relatively new phenomenon. In the past, I had always assumed that mobile phones ringing during a performance must be the result of forgetfulness and/or ignorance - but when a person will silence their device while remaining oblivious to the fact that a bright light in a darkened theatre can be just as disruptive as a ringtone, then it must just be that they think they're too damn important.
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« Reply #24 on: 16:49:20, 03-10-2007 » |
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We went to an opera in Miami and there was an announcement asking patrons to silence their phones and to "try not to" send text messages during the performance. We were a bit baffled by the idea that one could try and fail.
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« Reply #25 on: 16:50:16, 03-10-2007 » |
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I passed a fruit stall on the way into the Harmonia Mundi offices the other week, and thus when I arrived was able to offer HM's new (French) managing director a small black delicacy.
"What's this called in English?" he asked, taking it in one hand.
"A blackberry," I replied. "What's that fancy machine you've got in your other hand?" (It was a genuine question. I'd never knowingly seen one before.)
"A blackberry," he said.
Cue general confused laughter.
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« Reply #26 on: 16:51:42, 03-10-2007 » |
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I have to admit that sometimes I regret my policy of leaving my phone at home, because if I've enjoyed the First Act very much, I want to ring people and tell them about it!
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« Reply #27 on: 16:53:34, 03-10-2007 » |
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I always prefer to leave my phone at home if I'm going somewhere for some artistic ends. Where it can't be helped I turn it off. Only my new phone, in addition to...actually: I'm just going to put this on the grumpy old rant thread, as I have several other things I'd also like to say about my phone.
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« Reply #28 on: 17:35:15, 03-10-2007 » |
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And have I just missed it, or has the ROH stopped making the usual mobile phone announcement in the auditorium a minute or so before the lights go down? I don't recall hearing it last night or at Iphigenie last week? Big mistake if so.
It was made before Saturday's performance of Iphigénie, although I noticed it was made at a much lower volume and in a softer voice. However, I also noticed for the first time the note in the cast-sheet "The use of mobile phones ( including texting) is forbidden in the auditorium". I'd not noticed this before and, as a very recent first-time owner of a mobile phone (don't ask!) I was doubly anxious to make sure mine was switched off!
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« Reply #29 on: 17:40:24, 03-10-2007 » |
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When I'm going to a performance, I try and remember to put my phone on to "silent" earlier in the day so that if I forget to switch it off it won't be a disaster.
Unfortunately they often beep when you do turn them off, as one of our neighbours demonstrated last night just after the music started.
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