Tony Watson
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« Reply #30 on: 00:11:21, 04-10-2007 » |
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It all started with Verdi and his aria: "La Donna e Mobile Phone".
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« Reply #31 on: 10:27:49, 04-10-2007 » |
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but when a person will silence their device while remaining oblivious to the fact that a bright light in a darkened theatre can be just as disruptive as a ringtone, then it must just be that they think they're too damn important.
I suspect the problem here, as in so many cases of discourtesy, is that people just don´t think; and there is a worrying tendency to regard a challenge to someone´s behaviour as ruder than the behaviour itself; and an ill-advised tendency to try and accommodate electronic devices rather than have a straightforward ´switch it off´policy. I´m thinking of the recommendation to switch off or set to silent (whatever that means) in some halls and the airlines´recommendation that passengers use the ´flightsafe mode´ (whatever that is). I say this is ill-advised because it clearly isn´t working, and venues like golf courses have now taken to insisting on the devices being left in the clubhouse. I have to report that the burgers of Hagen are not much better as an audience than we are in London. I didn´t see many illuminated handsets but the number of people talking during the performance was greater even than in the circle at the proms; and I could have been at the NY Met with the applause beginning long before the music ended in Acts I & II. It´s hard to believe these people are all arrogant, ignorant or both. They are, quite possibly, working on the principle that what isn´t expressly forbidden is acceptable. I´m sure I´ve said elsewhere that someone must be incredibly dense if they can read a request to stifle coughs and still think conversation is acceptable; but clearly many people have thinking habits that are very different from mine. It´s quite possible they don´t think a bright light in a darkened auditorium is a problem (there is, perhaps, another excuse for the chap in front of me as there were several restricted view seats nearby with the text screens glowing. Maybe he thought his blackberry was no worse than that); but I think they should be told! The Hagen Tannhäuser, anti-social behaviour apart, was rather good. I´ll write a bit more about it later for anyone who might be interested.
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David_Underdown
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« Reply #32 on: 14:30:21, 04-10-2007 » |
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Set to silent - no ring tone, may or may not use the vibrating function of the phone to alert the user to calls.
Flightsafe mode (offline), the phone does not attempt to connect to the mobile network, so calls/text etc cannot be made or recevied, but other functions of the phone, camera, music player, games etc etc still function. Since the transmitter is not functioning, there is no risk of interference with the plane's avionics, hence the name.
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« Reply #33 on: 16:07:14, 04-10-2007 » |
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I can see the pre-show request to silence your phone becoming like the airline steward's pre-flight safety announcement for frequent fliers - they've heard it so many times, they take no notice.
The best example I know of a standard direction becoming ritualised and ignored is in the Eastern Orthodox Divine Liturgy when at one point the deacon chants "The doors, the doors. Let us attend." In ninth century Constantinople it meant something.
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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven. A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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« Reply #34 on: 16:28:53, 04-10-2007 » |
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The regular attenders shouldn't have to take any notice. I don't know about you, but I find that reaching into my bag and switching my telephone off has become an instinctive act which I am pre-programmed to carry out as I enter the theatre.
In eleven years of high-density concert and opera attendance I have never once forgotten, announcement or no announcement.
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« Reply #35 on: 16:49:25, 04-10-2007 » |
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In eleven years of high-density concert and opera attendance I have never once forgotten, announcement or no announcement.
I only switch mine on to make calls, Ruth. My biggest nightmare is that one day I´ll assume it´s off because 99% of the time it is. And a concert will coincide with one of the very rare occasions when one of the few people who know the number decides to call. But, as in your case, it hasn´t happened yet.
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« Reply #36 on: 18:16:44, 05-10-2007 » |
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Set to silent - no ring tone, may or may not use the vibrating function of the phone to alert the user to calls.
Flightsafe mode (offline), the phone does not attempt to connect to the mobile network, so calls/text etc cannot be made or recevied, but other functions of the phone, camera, music player, games etc etc still function. Since the transmitter is not functioning, there is no risk of interference with the plane's avionics, hence the name.
Thanks for the information, David. I now have the nasty suspicion that the guy who kept looking at his blackberry was responding to 'silent' prompts. It is quite sad, really, that someone feels unable to leave the outside world behind for the few hours of a theatrical performance but this is not really the right thread for that topic.
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« Reply #37 on: 18:32:18, 05-10-2007 » |
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I wonder whether Sir Roger has a Norringtone on his mobile?
Whatever, I bet he never has it on vibrate.
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« Reply #38 on: 21:46:51, 06-10-2007 » |
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Is it possible that some of the glows people are seeing are people consulting plot synopses on their PDAs?
OK, but if you've got the synopsis, then don't you consult it before the opera begins rather than during it whether it's on your PDA or in paper form? Call me old fashioned if you like, but I really hate it in any concert (or a religious service for that matter) when everyone turns their pages at the same time. There's only one excuse for mobiles in a concert and that's if you're (for example) a doctor on call, can receive a prompt without disturbing anyone and make your escape with minimal fuss. You could say that doctors on call shouldn't be going to concerts and you could have a point but it was the only possible exception that I could think of.
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« Reply #39 on: 21:51:29, 06-10-2007 » |
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I wonder whether Sir Roger has a Norringtone on his mobile?
Whatever, I bet he never has it on vibrate. Boom tish!
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« Reply #40 on: 23:03:41, 06-10-2007 » |
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There seem to be a number of people sitting near me at the Ring whose phones keep beeping on the hour (approximately ) Perhaps they've forgotten how to switch them off, but I find a hammer works well.
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #42 on: 18:20:59, 08-10-2007 » |
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Of course, some of them might be trying to photograph, or even video, moments of the performance on their phones? I know it might sound incredible (ie tiny picture, vast distance, poor light etc), but I have seen people trying to do exactly this in concerts
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« Reply #43 on: 10:23:25, 10-10-2007 » |
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Another mobile phone offender last night (Goetterdaemmerung - sorry, no time to perform umlauts). Other side of the balcony, less offensive and quieter ring tone. But, dear Wotan, the culprit allowed it to go off 3 times during Act 1 (at least, I heard it 3 times during the quieter passages - there may have been more). Why didn't someone over there attempt a forcible removal (of the phone or the person)?
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Chichivache
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The artiste formerly known as Gabrielle d’Estrées
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« Reply #44 on: 12:14:55, 10-10-2007 » |
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I heard no mobiles at the back of the paupers area, but - a few boos for Gasteen & Treleaven? How rude. Especially as Treleaven is cursed with a mullet which makes him look like Mickey from League of Gentlemen.... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/r3boards/s2_mickey.jpg[I still have no idea how to make the picture appear!]
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