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« Reply #30 on: 11:48:57, 03-03-2007 » |
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I didn't mind the camp, which seems quite fitting for what little I remember of that stage of Roman history, but as with other D McVicar productions I wished people would just keep still now and then. It's not so much the business that the singers do themselves, but the distracting prancing by extras while people are singing - comic soldiers etc. The really good thing about his productions I think is that he is so keen to make sure everyone understands what is going on in the action and the music - hence the golf clubs, I think, in case anyone had dropped off earlier and thought Claudio's protestations were genuine. It's too bad they didn't get him to direct The Gondoliers as well
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« Reply #31 on: 13:48:14, 03-03-2007 » |
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Well, thank you everyone, I went on Thursday night and thoroughly enjoyed it.
La Connolly was magnificent, and the Poppea and Nerone fine.
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I was impressed by Reno Troilus as Ottone. He threw off the coloratura with assurance, and I thought had a lovely tone in the lyrical sections. His body language was telling - jaunty at first, depressed when let down, and shattered when he emerged from hiding chez Poppea.
I just loved Ottone's lament at the end of Part One - almost reconciled me to the existence of counter-tenors!!! (Practice for ORLANDO this evening!)
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« Reply #32 on: 13:51:19, 03-03-2007 » |
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<snip> The really good thing about his productions I think is that he is so keen to make sure everyone understands what is going on in the action and the music - hence the golf clubs, I think, in case anyone had dropped off earlier and thought Claudio's protestations were genuine. It's too bad they didn't get him to direct The Gondoliers as well God yes, I thought THE GONDOLIERS was mega-boring!! I've never been much of a fan of G&S anyway, but I did quite like THE MIKADO, and THE PIRATES OF PENZANCE has its moments...
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« Reply #33 on: 14:50:43, 03-03-2007 » |
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I wished people would just keep still now and then Tush-tush, the critics will have your guts for garters if you let people stand still in opera these days. We're dealing with a public that's bombarded with special-effects and all-singing, all-dancing stuff every night on tv... you have to be a brave bloody man to dare do anything "still". I swear that if you staged a riotously fast-paced production of THE REAL INSPECTOR HOUND a critic would still say that "the corpse seemed rather static and curiously uninvolved in the action". I agree with what you're saying, but sadly I fear the general public (and they can be very general indeed, sometimes) won't wear it, and nor will the Management. Nor does the character have to be entirely still - it's a question of the overall dynamic. Have a look at Chris Robson in the dvd of the ENO XERXES, for example. It's all been very bouncy up this point and he's been swaggering around, and then suddenly he's dealt the body-blow that Romilda plans to marry Xerxes. He sings most of the aria standing on one spot (this is important for the lighting-cue, as the surrounding area can be masked in darkness to bring him into focus). It's very important for the dramatic truth of this aria that he stays in one place, because when we're confronted with a crushing disappointment, there is a tendency to hold on to only what is closest. He stays sitting on the ground for the first section of the aria... the middle section discusses the possibility of a misunderstanding, or a reconciliation, and for that he can stand up, and start to reoccupy his world, one pace at a time... but then the depression paralyses him once more, and he's rooted to his spot. His body moves - he just doesn't move around. Doing "nothing" on stage is rather difficult, because there is a tendency to slip out of character - this is where Stanislavsky training comes into play. A very nice piece of work indeed.
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« Reply #34 on: 15:23:48, 03-03-2007 » |
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The empress Poppea Was really rather a dear. Only no-one could stop her From being improper.
(Might have been EC Bently)
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« Reply #35 on: 15:29:01, 03-03-2007 » |
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I just loved Ottone's lament at the end of Part One I notice from young Reno's web site that his hair was specially dyed ice white at the behest of the producer. Agrippina is due to be broadcast on 19 May.
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« Reply #36 on: 18:09:49, 03-03-2007 » |
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Broadcast on telly or radio, Don B?
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« Reply #37 on: 18:17:10, 03-03-2007 » |
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Half a mo, reiner, let's look up the proggy.
Yes, there we are, "Broadcast on Radio 3".
Do you remember Agrippina's first aria? I am sure I recognized the music. Handel must have re-cycled it as something I've come across. Any ideas?
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« Reply #38 on: 18:21:50, 03-03-2007 » |
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And while we're on the subject, anyone know the original literary Italian economically translated by the indefatigable Miss Holden as "F***ty, f***, f***", f***?
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« Reply #39 on: 18:34:49, 03-03-2007 » |
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Ta for that, Don B :-) I also felt the first aria sounded very familiar, but I couldn't place where else I may have heard it? Opilec tends to know this kind of thing... where is he when we need him? Can't help you on the Italian original of the Tarantino-style outburst either, I'm afraid, although I think I'm amongst the minority who found it perfectly acceptable in context ;-)
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« Reply #40 on: 18:39:10, 03-03-2007 » |
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Reiner - I have a gut feeling that the Agrippina's aria was used for Juno's final number in Semele when she rejoices that her rival is destroyed. I will try to check. Agrippina is on itunes store so I can listen to the first 30 secs.
Agrippina and Juno have quite a bit in common, come to think of it.
You had prepared me for the line in question without spoiling the effect. I was amused. I thought the diction throughout was pretty good, or was that just the result of having surtitles that gave the full text?
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« Reply #41 on: 19:52:36, 03-03-2007 » |
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DonBasilio and all discribe it so well. I almost feel like I was there. May be they we will have traveling opera with a production.
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« Reply #42 on: 20:10:58, 03-03-2007 » |
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I think the line translated by all the asterisks was
"Evvi al mondo di me piu sfortunato?" translated in the booklet as
"Is there anyone in the world so wretched as I?"
Holden's version seems reasonable, then?
Not sure about the aria that might have been transplanted to Semele as I don't have a recording of Semele.
Some of the performances in The Gondoliers were good, especially Donald Maxwell's, but the production was so dreary and unimaginative I wanted to slit my throat. I had more fun at Wozzeck. But I'm not really a G&S fan.
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« Reply #43 on: 20:29:46, 03-03-2007 » |
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To be fair to the director of The Gondoliers I think it was originally done for Chichester, where it was probably just the thing. Not for the ENO though, in my opinion.
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« Reply #44 on: 22:14:34, 03-03-2007 » |
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Thank you harpy, for extending my knowledge of baroque Italian (I can manage "Come primo, prendo gli spaghetti" but otherwise I am not fluent.)
I was probably word perfect at the age of six in "I stole the prince and I brought him here" but The Gondoliers was never my favourite Sullivan. The individual numbers are all lovely, but there is an Edwardian haze to it all that lacks the bite of the earlier works. A bit twee compared to Mikado, Patience etc. I'm not sorry I missed the ENO version, but glad they did it.
(tp - you probably won't have a clue what this is all about. Arthur Sullivan's operettas are the English equivalent of Johann Strauss and Offenbach, but occupy a very odd place in English culture. His libbretist was a very quirky, surreal, reactionary and philistine writer called W S Gilbert. Although they send up nineteeth century opera, they were endlessly enjoyed in the early twentieth century by sweet provincial folk who would say "I don't like opera, but I like Gilbert and Sullivan." The ENO has just revived one of their most popular works.)
Was Maxwell the Grand Inquistor?
I have the wonderful Marliyn Horne singing Juno, with Kathleen Battle as Semele. I will try to make the comparison tomorrrow.
Night night everybody, night night.
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