Reiner Torheit
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[The poll questions are actually taken from a poll on another site - to which members from here were invited yesterday - which claims this is the kind of "cutting-edge discussion" they have there? So the utterly stupid polling choices are not mine. I thought about sparing the rod, and adding some sensible ones... but I wanted the highlight the imbecility of the ones which had been offered by quoting them here.]Meantime, back in the actual world of cutting-edge discussion.... the Greek Govt is coming under pressure to find some funds... what promises to be the last major auction of personal effect and ephemera of Maria Callas (born Mary Kalogeropoulou, in Greece) is lined-up, and Greece's most famous "name" in the annals of opera is yet to be celebrated in Greece with much more than a discarded stage wig. However, the cash-strapped Athens Govt will be bidding against Italian, American and other opera fans with immensely deep pockets, and a different sense of the cash value of these artefacts. The Grauniad takes up the story... http://www.guardian.co.uk/italy/story/0,,2197739,00.html
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House" - Leon Trotsky, "My Life"
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Kittybriton
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« Reply #1 on: 12:36:15, 24-10-2007 » |
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How sad, that the cradle of civilization should slight one of their greatest children of recent times. Am I right in thinking that the Elgin marbles (Alien Marvels according to some) are still on the shopping list?
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Click me -> About meor me -> my handmade storeNo, I'm not a complete idiot. I'm only a halfwit. In fact I'm actually a catfish.
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #2 on: 12:41:02, 24-10-2007 » |
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Hi Kitty The Elgin Marbles were the topic of a debate on the Grauniad's "Comment Is Free" pages recently - I was amazing how a readership of progressive intellectual liberals quickly turned into combative Empire-loyalist xenophobes if the question of returning the Elgin Marbles to errr, their place of origin arose?
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House" - Leon Trotsky, "My Life"
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« Reply #3 on: 12:48:34, 24-10-2007 » |
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If one were to attempt an intelligent response to the poll question, surely it could be asserted that Callas deserved both titles at different phases of her career? Though I would dispute the nomenclatures - 'wailing banshee' is a bit harsh and what I do know of MC suggests that her behaviour, for much of her life, was hardly angelic.
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...so flatterten lachend die Locken....
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Tony Watson
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« Reply #4 on: 23:36:54, 24-10-2007 » |
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(born Mary Kalogeropoulou, in Greece)
I think she was born in New York, unless you mean that that was her original Greek name.
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« Reply #5 on: 00:25:23, 25-10-2007 » |
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The Elgin Marbles were the topic of a debate on the Grauniad's "Comment Is Free" pages recently - I was amazing how a readership of progressive intellectual liberals quickly turned into combative Empire-loyalist xenophobes if the question of returning the Elgin Marbles to errr, their place of origin arose? But where do you draw the line when talking about returning art to its "place of origin"? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7058383.stm
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #6 on: 00:46:19, 25-10-2007 » |
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What Callas did for opera can't begin to be measured by a "yes or no" poll: a great exponent of acting with the voice, she identified with the character in such a way as to make most of her contemporaries look like posturing songbirds. On recordings the voice is often far from conventionally beautiful, but the sense and the emotion of the vocal line is often red (or even white) hot. For most folk, it only takes one viewing of the fragment of the ROH Tosca Act 2 (with Gobbi as Scarpia) preserved on videotape to understand the force of her stage persona and her passionate involvement in the proceedings: no mere going through the motions, but living the heroine's predicament from minute to minute.
As for "angel of the opera house' or 'wailing banshee', they're surely both tabloid caricatures which deserve no place in serious musical discussion.
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #7 on: 00:57:26, 25-10-2007 » |
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Yes, that exhibition has been causing quite a stir at this end There's a bit of exaggerated fibbing going on in the reporting of this, because it's not true there have been no major Russian art exhibitions visiting the UK of late. The Kremlin had an exhibition in London in 2006, themed around "foreign patronage" - the items were primarily those donated to the Russian Tsars by foreign powers in search of trading privileges. Since Britain was Russia's major trading partner throughout the C16th and C17th (the activities of Richard Chancellor's "Muscovy Company" and his opening of the White Sea shipping route) much of the material was British in origin, primarily the Kremlin's unique collection of English Silver, which is the finest in the world. Mme Gagarina (yes, she's his daughter) opened the London show in person, as she is the Chief Curator of the Kremlin collections. The Hermitage also had an exhibition in London, earlier in 2007, of historical firearms, which attracted enormous attention in that narrow field of interest - once again, nearly all the pieces were of foreign origin and had come to Russia as donations or, errr, bribes. Neither of these exhibitions was - as far as I know from my buddy at the Hermitage who set-up the firearms one - threatened with any legal attempts to sieze the items on display. The words "black propoganda aimed at promoting the show" and "outrageous grandstanding" were muttered by phone over the weekend Chrs
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #8 on: 00:58:06, 25-10-2007 » |
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As for "angel of the opera house' or 'wailing banshee', they're surely both tabloid caricatures which deserve no place in serious musical discussion.
Exactamundo.
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George Garnett
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« Reply #9 on: 01:15:44, 25-10-2007 » |
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The Hermitage also had an exhibition in London, earlier in 2007, of historical firearms, which attracted enormous attention in that narrow field of interest The 'Hermitage Rooms' in Somerset House have been holding a continuous series of exhibitions of works from the Hermitage since they were set up six or seven years ago, and very good some of them have been too. There was also a big Kandinsky exhibition at the Tate a couple of years ago which included items from both the Hermitage and the Pushkin Museums. That said, I don't think London has had anything to match the goodies apparently coming to the RA next year since the last big Hermitage loan exhibition at the National Gallery in about (1980-something?). Hype and grandstanding or not, I'm happily drooling already.
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #10 on: 01:49:39, 25-10-2007 » |
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Sadly the Hermitage Rooms at Somerset House are to close, as there is no longer the financial support to keep them open. The Hermitage will continue to keep open some other smaller exhibition centres abroad, such as the one in Berlin... although these are inevitably question-marked if the London centre is to close
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