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Author Topic: Joseph Martin Kraus (1756 - 1792)  (Read 237 times)
John W
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« on: 19:51:36, 19-01-2008 »

IGI,

Referring to the work mentioned on the NMC thread today,


Joseph Martin Kraus' opera Soliman II has the subtitle The Three Sultanas:



IGI,

Quite a coincidence. Just last week in a 'bulk buy' of vinyl  Smiley I was intrigued to find an LP of this work, but it's not the same recording.

I notice the Virgin CD above says First Recording. So I wondered when was it recorded - Amazon suggests 1992. The LP I have gives no indication of recording date but says DIGITAL PAN OV-65015 so might be a late vinyl from around the same time ?? The label I think is Pan-Vleugels, and on the sleeve it says it was pressed in Germany by Teldec. Here's the label:



I expect Kraus had heard Mozart's 'Seraglio', with the Turkish music etc. when he wrote this in 1789. The Sultan appears to just talk (too quietly) but we hear some very pleasant arias and music. I've only given it one listen so far but I enjoyed the singing, though there seems to be only two sopranos yet three sultanas  Huh Where is Elmire? The LP is 56mins long so maybe it's highlights.


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« Reply #1 on: 22:00:41, 19-01-2008 »

That is a coincidence, John!

The Virgin Classics disc is indeed from 1992 and, from the liner notes, says that they used a new edition prepared from the autograph score in Stockholm, so that could be why it's referred to as a 'first recording'. The Rumstadt recording you have appears to have been released in 1986 from what I can find online. It's an interesting 'work' in that it isn't really an opera, or indeed a singspiel; it's described as a 'drama with song', which seems more apt: Act I's music consists of two arias (for Delia); Act II includes a very brief chorus, an aria for Roxelane, an intermezzo, Elmire's Dance and a duet for Delia and Roxelane. It's Act III where most of the music comes (41 mins on this CD) including marches and ballet with suitably exotic 'Turkish percussion' which was so fashionable at the time.

Incidentally, I first came across some of the music on this very entertaining disc:

with Concerto Köln and Sarband joining forces in music inspired by the East, such as Mozart's Entführung Overture, Gluck's La Recontre imprevue, Süßmayr's Sinfonia turchesca , an exotic Concerto turco by Marquis De Ferriol and other Turkish delights.  
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« Reply #2 on: 22:25:27, 19-01-2008 »

Mozart wrote some of the same sort of thing... ZAIDE is basically a play, with couple of songs in it.  They happen to be by Mozart Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: 23:54:19, 19-01-2008 »

And one in particular, as you know, just happens to be one of the finest tunes there is... Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: 01:54:08, 20-01-2008 »

Mozart wrote some of the same sort of thing... ZAIDE is basically a play, with couple of songs in it.  They happen to be by Mozart Smiley

Eh yes, I did say 'I expect Kraus had heard Mozart's 'Seraglio', with the Turkish music etc. when he wrote this in 1789',

and I know Zaide was written about 1780.

I'm just trying to determine the date of recording of the Kraus work by the  Heidelberger Kantatenorchester

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« Reply #5 on: 07:00:26, 20-01-2008 »

I'm just trying to determine the date of recording of the Kraus work by the  Heidelberger Kantatenorchester

from an online catalogue (http://www.bookmaps.de/lib/ruc/s/o/sol_31.html)

Soliman II.: oder die drei Sultaninnen
Kraus, Joseph M. ; Simons, Yvette ; Kirchner, Eva ; Kiefer, Volker ; Barth, Walter ; Rumstadt, Guido J.
Hardheim. Pan-Vleugels. ca. 1986. 1 Schallpl. : 33 UpM, stereo ; 30 cm.
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« Reply #6 on: 13:12:16, 20-01-2008 »

Thanks IGI, Reiner, Ollie, last night I somehow didn't read IGI's first message (and I was quite inebriated  Roll Eyes sorry.

So the LP features a slightly different score? As I say it is odd that the speaking part of Soliman is spoken very quietly, and only two of the sultanas sing.
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« Reply #7 on: 16:02:18, 20-01-2008 »

There was a kind-of "tradition" in Singspiels and other sung/spoken pieces that the main male character would be a spoken role, and often would not say much until towards the end (when he would traditionally come on and "explain" what had happened, etc).   In part it was a dramatic convention, but it was also about good box-office - it gave theatres a chance to put a box-office "draw" actor into a musical piece, and get both "music" and "theatre" audiences along to the same piece Wink   SERAGLIO and SCHAUSPIELDIREKTOR both exhibit this tradition.  Storace picked-up this ball and ran with it in London - all his main opera pieces have a spoken "heroic" male lead, with the tenor lead usually playing the anti-hero. THE SIEGE OF BELGRADE (1791) is another of these "Turkish" pieces.. the Turkish Field-Marshall, the Seraskier, is a tenor, while his Austrian opponent, Colonel Cohenburg, is a spoken part.
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