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Author Topic: Salome at Covent Garden  (Read 222 times)
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« on: 14:51:38, 13-03-2008 »


Has anyone been to the Covent Garden 'Salome' ? I went last night and was captivated... if that is the right word when she ended up rolling round the stage covered in blood and kissing the head!

I am not sure why there were 2 nudes on the stage either... can anyone explain?

A super performance , I thought... I thought Michael Volle's singing as Jokanaan just right and Nadja Michael as  Salome became wonderfully neurotic as the opera progressed!

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« Reply #1 on: 14:52:56, 13-03-2008 »

I am not sure why there were 2 nudes on the stage either... can anyone explain?

erm... they took their clothes off?
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« Reply #2 on: 14:56:48, 13-03-2008 »

Well, the curtains opened to find amongst others a lady in the nude standing in front of a man, she just sat down and draped herself for a while then came back dressed in underwear... corset and stockings.
The man who killed John the Baptist was wearing a coat throughtout until he went down the hole where John was , he took his coat of to reveal nothing , leapt down into the dungeon and came back covered in blood which Salome , as she clutched him, also became covered in ... I just wondered why they were nude !

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« Reply #3 on: 15:22:02, 13-03-2008 »

I can certainly imagine it somewhat reducing the sexual-tension factor if everyone's in the altogether from the start. And certainly making one wonder why on earth one more person getting their gear off might be worth making a fuss about. Haven't seen it though.

I saw a lovely Salome recently where Jochanaan clearly had the hots for Salome all the way through and constantly had to tear himself away. He managed it of course but my goodness me it was a close thing sometimes. Very tense atmosphere indeed. Just right.
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« Reply #4 on: 15:34:29, 13-03-2008 »

But seriously... the last time I saw Salomé there were a number of naked ladies (who didn't sing as far as I could tell, being one of the few gentlemen in the gods without opera-glasses stuck to his face) disporting themselves around Herod's court in an odalisque-like kind of way, which I took to indicate some sort of decadence, unnecessarily I thought since the music is soaked in it from the first sound onwards. Some opera producers (somehow the name Sellars springs unbidden to mind) seem not to feel they've done their job unless kit is removed at some point during the performance.
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« Reply #5 on: 15:51:37, 13-03-2008 »

And, had Schumann heard it, might he have praised Strauss in the assembled company with the words "Heads off, gentlemen: a genius!"?...

Seriously, though - what an astonishing score it is! Soaked throughout with decadence indeed, but also with the most remarkable ideas presented with the utmost virtuosity, skill, power and succinctness, in the last of which he espouses economy of means (even though little else is economical about it!); it seems as fresh, new, exciting and brilliant as I imagine it must have been to its first audience more than 100 years ago. Various claims have been made of the "modern music began here" kind, principal contenders famously being Prélude à l'Après-midi, d'un Faune, Schönberg's Second Quartet and Le Sacre; if one really has to earmark one work and make such a claim for it (and I'm not sure it's helpful to do so), then Salome could as well be it.
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« Reply #6 on: 15:52:47, 13-03-2008 »

I loved the Dance! Well, actually at first I thought it was a bit odd, but then I realised it actually worked very well, and related very closely to the music - especially during the waltz parody section, where she is actually waltzing with Herod in the deserted ballroom.
And the range of her voice is spectacular!
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« Reply #7 on: 15:55:52, 13-03-2008 »

Ah yes, the dance.. I also loved the way the scenery moved and brought on the different outfits etc... very effective. Judging by her final bow she IS a dancer, as to touch the floor with straight legs and hold it ' for ever' is quite a feat really!!

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« Reply #8 on: 22:34:42, 16-03-2008 »

Well, the curtains opened to find amongst others a lady in the nude standing in front of a man, she just sat down and draped herself for a while then came back dressed in underwear... corset and stockings.
The man who killed John the Baptist was wearing a coat throughtout until he went down the hole where John was , he took his coat of to reveal nothing , leapt down into the dungeon and came back covered in blood which Salome , as she clutched him, also became covered in ... I just wondered why they were nude !

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There was a South Bank show about the preparations for this Salome and IIRC the design "concept", including the naked ladies, came from Pasolini's Salo, a film version of de Sade's 100 Days of Sodom. Again IIRC, the fact that the (invisible to me) diners on the upper level of the set were passing these women around, like passing the port, was intended by the director and designer as a sign of general decadence and brutality. (Not sure if Pasolini accounts for the nakedness of the executioner?)

I thought the show was, er, excellent in parts. I wasn't entirely sold on the idea of explaining Salome's depravity in terms of her having been abused by Herod - not sure spelling that out added anything, although I always thought the idea was that she was a product of and scapegoat for a corrupt society.
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« Reply #9 on: 22:48:04, 16-03-2008 »

Thanks for the info harpy. I missed the South Bank Show and .. like you... I could only see the feet of the people upstairs so I perhaps missed the significance of it. I haven't seen Salome before and I did find myself absorbed by this production.. or was it the excitement of going to Covent Garden after a gap of about 40 years? !!

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« Reply #10 on: 23:39:34, 16-03-2008 »

Yes, despite quibbles I found it absorbing as well. Hope you're not going to leave it another 40 years before you come again? Wink
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« Reply #11 on: 08:46:40, 17-03-2008 »

like you... I could only see the feet of the people upstairs so I perhaps missed the significance of it.

That was all you were SUPPOSED to see of the people upstairs.

People who wanted to play around with naked whores were seemingly obliged to come downstairs in order to do so Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: 09:27:10, 17-03-2008 »

Yes, despite quibbles I found it absorbing as well. Hope you're not going to leave it another 40 years before you come again? Wink

No harpy, I have recently moved from Manchester to London so I am able to 'concert' as much as I wish !!

Ruth... really? only see the feet? well I wish I'd known that - I can trying to see more !! Grin

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