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« Reply #2 on: 10:14:32, 23-04-2008 » |
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Do you think that audiences react differently in certain parts of the world ( or in certain venues ) to aspects of a performance ? Having seen the tv transmission at Christmas, I thought Dessay acted everyone else off stage in a tour de force and that Florez was very wooden in comparison. But in NY the singing was obviously the thing ?
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #3 on: 11:16:03, 23-04-2008 » |
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You may well have a point there, Bobby  Met audiences seem unduly influenced by measurable feats (as in the number of top C's per aria etc) - rather like a Barnum & Bailey crowd to see the Bearded Lady  However, I have to say that having listened to that clip, I was appropriately impressed, it's a stunning performance I haven't seen Florez either live or on tv... I've seen Dessay on video, and her stage abilities easily equal her vocal talents. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems to me that in the USA there is a general downer on realistic acting in opera - they seem to want semi-concert performances, as though there's something slightly immoral about proper theatrical stagings? But you meet this attitude in Britain too... anyone who's ever addressed the Fiends Of ENO on the issue (as I have) will know what shooting fish in a barrel is like... from the fish's point of view  |
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« Reply #4 on: 20:56:04, 23-04-2008 » |
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9 top c's, but why? Isn't one, perhaps two, enough to satisfy the emotional cravings, unless of course the music is just freaky vocal gymnastics. I would like to hear Mr Florez in the flesh but have not been over-struck by what I've heard on the radio of this piece. Just another of my blind spots.
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« Reply #5 on: 21:03:35, 23-04-2008 » |
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Thanks Reiner!  I'm wondering whether it's worth forking out to see the performance in the cinema on Saturday... |
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« Reply #6 on: 21:28:52, 23-04-2008 » |
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I'm wondering whether it's worth forking out to see the performance in the cinema on Saturday...
I admit to never having tried this new opera-at-the-flicks mullarkey... several members (inc Mary C, but not only) here haven't been impressed with the visual aspects, although I'd still give it a whirl once if it was nearer than 2000 miles away And I suppose it depends what it costs at your local cinema*. However, this production has had rave reviews all round, and even if the pan'n'scan is poorly managed, it might be still worth it for a chance to see Dessay in top form in a role she was born to sing * I can't pass-up the old joke:
CALLER: Hello, is that the local cinema?
BOX-OFFICE: That depends where you're calling from, Sir.
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« Reply #7 on: 21:47:01, 23-04-2008 » |
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9 top c's, but why?
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« Reply #8 on: 21:48:31, 23-04-2008 » |
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9 top c's, but why? Why does a dog... er, no, never mind. |
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« Reply #9 on: 22:01:10, 23-04-2008 » |
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9 top c's, but why?
Because they wouldn't allow him to sing 17 of them. To understand the Tenor in his own habitat, you have to take-on the mentality of your quarry |
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« Reply #10 on: 22:11:08, 23-04-2008 » |
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*I can't pass-up the old joke:
CALLER: Hello, is that the local cinema?
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Is that a variant on the bus-driver joke: TEENAGER (getting on bus): Do you go past my nan's house? |
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« Reply #11 on: 22:26:24, 23-04-2008 » |
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*I can't pass-up the old joke:
CALLER: Hello, is that the local cinema?
BOX-OFFICE: That depends where you're calling from, Sir.
Is that a variant on the bus-driver joke: TEENAGER (getting on bus): Do you go past my nan's house?Yeah, but you can jump off. |
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« Reply #12 on: 05:30:52, 24-04-2008 » |
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*I can't pass-up the old joke:
CALLER: Hello, is that the local cinema?
BOX-OFFICE: That depends where you're calling from, Sir.
Is that a variant on the bus-driver joke: TEENAGER (getting on bus): Do you go past my nan's house?A blonde is at the greengrocers when her cell phone rings. She answers it, "Oh, darling, how did you know I was here in front of the rutabagas?" |
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« Reply #13 on: 22:15:28, 25-04-2008 » |
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I saw this ROH prod on DVD when I went down to my mum's this week (she has a DVD player.)
La Dessay was wonderful in vest and dungarees in Act 1, but I loved Florez looking gormless in stripy pullover and lederhosen, and then inspired by LURVE changing into military uniform to hit his top Cs (as written by Donizetti).
Great fun, but hardly much insight into the human condition (L'elisir d'amore and Don Pasqaule are much more profound.)
Mind you I have a thing about JDF comparable to another distinguished member's views about Thomas Hampson. The best thing to come from Peru since Paddington Bear. I will try to moderate my enthusiasm.
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« Reply #14 on: 23:15:17, 25-04-2008 » |
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The best thing to come from
DarkestPeru since Paddington Bear.
I wonder if JDF likes marmalade sandwiches? And gives hard stares? I will try to moderate my enthusiasm.
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