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Author Topic: La finta giardiniera  (Read 216 times)
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« on: 15:33:23, 22-07-2008 »

Recently spun chez t_i_n: the Drottningholm Theatre's production of La finta giardiniera (The Impostor-Gardeneress, as I've decided to translate it!) on DVD.

What a strange piece! Mozart seems not to have yet learned how to be Mozart, and it's spectacularly lacking in all the things I thought he was supposed to be so good at - involving story, believably-motivated characters ... The plot is a typical comedy plot, with a game of false and mistaken identities finally resolved into conjugal happiness all round. But there are sudden, strange shifts of gear from happy to sad and vice versa, which sound as clunky in the music as they seem in the drama (unprepared changes from major to minor, weird, disorienting changes of metre, etc.).

And there are absolutely none, as far as I noticed, of the wonderful ensembles I love so much in later Mozart operas. There are moments when two or several characters sing together, but only because they're all singing the same thing at more or less the same time - this isn't what I think of as a real operatic ensemble, since there's very rarely even a counterpoint of musical lines, and certainly not a counterpoint of emotions.

A question for those who know about such things: is Ramiro ever played by a countertenor? And if so, how normal would this be?
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« Reply #1 on: 15:55:59, 22-07-2008 »

FINTA GIARDINIERA is one of those scores which would have been binned years ago,  had it not been for the coincidence of being penned by the juvenile Mozart.  In fact it's almost a pity that bloody score turned up in the 1970s Smiley   It's an extraordinarily weak work.

Ramiro is a soprano castrato role - it was written for Tommaso Consoli. How these castrati roles should be performed these days is a no-win question, and an unhappy flick of the coin between letting a female soprano do them as a "breeches role", or allocating them to a counter-tenor.  Neither is what the composer wanted, but what the composer wanted isn't available. 

Although some of the new generation of countertenors (Daniels, Scholl, Zazzo, Robson, Troilus etc) have "rewritten the book" of what's possible with the counter-tenor voice, two problems remain.  Firstly, it doesn't sound like a castratro, it has its own sound instead.  Secondly, counter-tenors have no choice about their vocal range..  the very best of them, like Scholl, can approximate the vocal range of a good mezzo-soprano,  but f', f#' and g' on the top of the stave have them struggling.  This would work to substitute for alto-castrati (such as Farinelli and Senesino).  But there were also soprano-castrati (boys who might have become tenors, rather than baritones, and whose castrato voice is pitched around a fourth higher than the normal castrato) - "Carestini" was one of the more famous.  Although some counter-tenors (I shall name no names...) have taken a crack at these roles, the results hover unpleasantly between "brave stab" and something nearer The Tiger Lilies.  I think these roles have to be sung by female performers in drag, frankly.

My real feeling about FINTA GARDINIERA is that there are so very many operas by Mozart's contemporaries that cry-out for decent performances...   why chuck vastly expensive resources at Mozart's juvenilia?   (Well, I know why, but even so...)
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« Reply #2 on: 17:06:04, 22-07-2008 »

there are so very many operas by Mozart's contemporaries that cry-out for decent performances... 

This reminds me of J C Bach again.
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« Reply #3 on: 21:10:27, 22-07-2008 »

This reminds me of J C Bach again.

And Arne - cursed to be played every Prom season in snippet form Sad

Although I was really thinking of Mozart's Viennese contemporaries when I wrote the above.
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« Reply #4 on: 22:37:24, 22-07-2008 »

I was always rather excited by Rule Britannia at the Last Night - it was completely free of romantic slush - music having to be sincere and that sort of dishonest rubbish.

Of course, it needed to be sung by a proper contralto



capable of making everyone quail, as she sung Katisha or the Queen of the Fairies in Iolanthe.  Dame Clara Butt in the photo.

For years I have been tempted by Arne's Alfred. Is it worthwhile?  Or what about his Artaxerxes?  I believe Jane Austen heard it and was unimpressed.  (I've finished The Mighty and their Fall and started Emma.)
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« Reply #5 on: 03:20:34, 23-07-2008 »

the very best of them, like Scholl, can approximate the vocal range of a good mezzo-soprano,  but f', f#' and g' on the top of the stave have them struggling.

I think we have different ideas as to what constitutes 'a good mezzo-soprano' then Wink (assuming you mean f'' etc of course... I don't think the f' above middle c' poses much of a challenge to Scholl!) Farinelli does indeed seem to have been a soprano if Quantz is any guide: "Farinelli had a penetrating, full, rich, bright and well-modulated soprano voice, with a range at that time from the A below middle C to the D two octaves above middle C".

For me where counter-tenors tend to be a letdown is just as much at the other end of the range though. There's quite a deal of writing around middle c' for the likes of Senesino (Handel's Orlando for example) where counter-tenors don't in general feel able to let their inner baritone out because it doesn't blend with their falsetto (I remember Scholl in concert changing gear halfway through a downward scale and suddenly doubling in volume (the voice, not him)).
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« Reply #6 on: 07:39:30, 23-07-2008 »

Knowing your enthusiasm for THE BEGGAR'S OPERA, Don B, you may like Arne's THOMAS & SALLY, which is in the "English Pastorale" tradition - although it's more jovial and hearty than the "Nymphs & Shepherds" kind of thing.  ARTAXERXES lies at the other end of Arne's output, and is consciously written in the Italian style as an opera seria (with a cod-classical libretto to match).  It enjoyed great popularity at the time, although it's now dropped from view.  There is a recording by Roy Goodman and the Parley of Instruments, whom I always find curiously coldblooded - Chris Robson does a decent job in the title role.

Although Quantz wrote this of Farinelli, his roles don't bespeak that range...  it would seem rather odd that composers who were creating pieces especially to showcase his talent (it was, after all, the singer rather than the composer whom the public came for) didn't explicitly include this upper end of his voice?   I wonder how much of that range was practicably usable in performance?  Most singers have up to a fourth above their comfy range where they can knock-out a squeak or two if needs be - but they won't be overkeen to do it often!  Yet female soprano parts do go up into the stratosphere in the written dots.  I agree it could be that Farinelli may have displayed his prowess in his own ornamentations and elaborations of the written line, especially in the DC sections...  but it's odd that composers didn't write for it?   BTW, I know several mezzos who will "go for" Bb and B at the top in Verdi,  so they have those notes "on call" if needed...  but socking-in one glorious top-note at the end of an aria is a different thing to negotiating it repeatedly in a cantilena line Wink

Absolutely agreed about the chest-voice end of things - I'm a great fan of Scholl and have most of what he's recorded. I respect him for using his baritone voice now and then,  because it's in the interests of the music rather than his singerly glory...  after all, he is a counter-tenor, and the mixture of registers is accepted practice for that voice Smiley   Purcell - who was consciously writing for non-castrato male voices - frequently takes his singers over that break, and his Catches characteristically have two verses in baritone register and then shoot-off into falsetto for the third verse.  It all underlines the essential differences between the counter-tenor voice and the castrato.

[BTW, the term "counter-tenor" was frequently used in C18th England to describe a female mezzo-soprano-pitched voice.  Anastasia Robinson, Handel's ever-dependable seconda donna in the heyday of his "Academy" operas, was almost always described as having a "counter-tenor" voice.  (She'd started off billed as a soprano in RADAMISTO, then reappears as a "counter-tenor" two seasons later in OTTONE and after.  Thereafter she seems to have been put out to pasture when Faustina Bordoni arrived, and appears to have been "collateral damage" in the Bordoni/Cuzzoni rivalries - and also because the paying punters wanted Italian singers for their money, whether they were truthfully "better" or not.  By ALESSANDRO she'd completely disappeared from the casting - perhaps she'd left the profession to get married? It wasn't a profession that many husbands outside it tolerated at the time.).  ]

In all these discussions about replacing castrati with counter-tenors or mezzos etc,  it's worth remembering that Handel was utterly sanguine and practical in these matters,  and made such swaps without blinking.  For RADAMISTO his opening cast (April 1720) had Durastanti (a female soprano) singing the male lead Radamisto as a breeches role, and Anastasia Robinson singing the female lead Zenobia.  There had been a castrato available, but evidently not one who met Handel's requirements - Benedetto Baldassari was left singing the comprimario role of Fraarte (the role was entirely removed in the 1728 revival). He was evidently not even up to the secondary castrato role of Tigrane, and this, too, was allocated to a female soprano in drag - Caterina Galerati.  So in just one cast, two castrato roles had been handed to female performers in the absence of decent castrati.

But the opera was then swiftly revived (Dec of the same year) when Senesino finally arrived (after a protracted dispute with his previous house, who were disinclined to release him from contract).  Handel put Senesino into the male lead part (he could hardly reasonably have been billed in any alternative part in any case), and switched Durastanti onto Robinson's previous (female) role.  Poor old Baldassari seems to have been dispensed with entirely - a new castrato Matteo Berselli took over Tigrane from Caterina Galerati, and she was moved onto Baldassari's role of Fraarte.

He then revived it a second time eight years later - Senesino continued in the male lead, with Bordoni now brought in to sing Durastanti's role (she'd returned to Italy for family and career reasons).  Cuzzoni was moved into the role of Polissena (and was famously threatened with defenestration if she refused it) and a fresh castrato named Baldi took over Tigrane. Fraarte - as mentioned - was cut entirely (if that's not an improper thing to say of a castrato role).

In other words - Handel himself was more than content to use female sopranos to sing heroic male castrato leads, IF there wasn't a star castrato available, and even did so in premiere first casts.  He would prefer to cast a better female performer than a second-rate castrato - this may have been for musical or box-office reasons, or a combination of the two.
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« Reply #7 on: 10:05:49, 23-07-2008 »

I heard Thomas and Sally about 30 years ago on an LP owned by a friend living off the Hackney Road.

I would have thought it well worth revival, not least for the Older but Disreputable Woman ("And books of devotion kept by on the shelf, I teach that to others I once did myself.")
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