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Author Topic: Ades - The Tempest  (Read 1732 times)
oliver sudden
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« Reply #30 on: 17:28:42, 14-03-2007 »

Something that often gets me teary from The Tempest is 'The cloud-capp'd tow'rs' from the Vaughan Williams Shakespeare songs for chorus. Don't know any other music that makes a sound like that.
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« Reply #31 on: 17:35:29, 14-03-2007 »

Don't forget Frank Martin's Der Sturm
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« Reply #32 on: 20:09:32, 14-03-2007 »

Too late!  Wink
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« Reply #33 on: 08:41:16, 16-03-2007 »

Great opportunities for a contemporary 'take' on The Tempest for those of a Fortean Society bent. IIRC the true events which sort of/might have prompted Shakespeare's creative juices took place in what is now 'The Bermuda Triangle'.

Unexpected storms brewing up for no apparent reason, ships suddenly disappearing from the radar without warning, strange Ariel activity.....that sort of thing.



(You're going to tell me it's already been done, aren't you.)
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« Reply #34 on: 11:01:40, 21-03-2007 »

Well, I went.

Aside from a drag in the middle act, I thought it was excellent.

Musically that is.  Yes, it's derivative but to my mind it works superbly.

The production, however, was one of the worst I've seen - although you have to see it because otherwise you'd lose the surtitles for Ariel.
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« Reply #35 on: 11:51:44, 21-03-2007 »

I went again last night and enjoyed the music even more on a second hearing. I actually quite liked the production, but the libretto still grated, although knowing what to expect helped a bit there.

What is it derivative from, as a matter of interest ? I thought I heard echoes of Britten and Janacek, but the way it was put together seemed new (although there are a lot of things I haven't heard).
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« Reply #36 on: 14:08:09, 21-03-2007 »

What is it derivative from, as a matter of interest ? I thought I heard echoes of Britten and Janacek, but the way it was put together seemed new (although there are a lot of things I haven't heard).

Oh same here.  I am so far from being even a knowledgeable amateur.  I have been listening to a lot of Janacek recently so maybe it was just that!  As a whole, I thought it was excellent and fully deserving of a revival so soon after its premiere.

The production is clearly a matter of taste.  The problem for me was that it looked too much like a 1980s music video.  I'm a great believer in less is more, simple lines - that kind of thing.  That said, haven't been for a while, but I don't recall seeing that at Covent Garden much!
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« Reply #37 on: 14:24:55, 21-03-2007 »

I could certainly have done without the dinosaurs and other clutter, but I quite liked the central book thing (at any rate until a friend pointed out it looked more like Prospero's laptop computer).

Apparently there is going to be a broadcast and a recording:

http://www.gramophone.co.uk/newsMainTemplate.asp?storyID=2777&newssectionID=1
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« Reply #38 on: 11:58:37, 22-03-2007 »

I went again last night and enjoyed the music even more on a second hearing. I actually quite liked the production, but the libretto still grated, although knowing what to expect helped a bit there.

What is it derivative from, as a matter of interest ? I thought I heard echoes of Britten and Janacek, but the way it was put together seemed new (although there are a lot of things I haven't heard).

I loved the music, esp. the Love Duet between Ferdinand and Miranda...people actually came out whistling it!!
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« Reply #39 on: 12:29:49, 22-03-2007 »

The love duet is fine, but definitely IMO contains very strong echoes of Janacek in the brass writing towards the end. I didn't think that Caliban's aria came over as magically this time as first time around. Not sure why. The end was mesmerising though.
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« Reply #40 on: 20:02:55, 29-03-2007 »

I think you're right about Mozart, and Ligeti was going to do one, and Berlioz.

Well at least we hav the Tempest Fantasy at the end of Lelio.
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« Reply #41 on: 20:22:05, 29-03-2007 »

I can already see a production in my mind's eye: set in Zimbabwe, with Mugabe as Caliban....

Good Evening Mr Dough,

As the General Secretary of LOOMINGS (the Lonely Ogres and Other Mythological Individuals' National Society), I must protest most strongly at the linking of one of our most distinguished member's name with that of the repulsive Dictator you mention.

Calibanistic calumnies have been, sadly, all too frequent over the years but some things are just beyond the pale.

I trust that we will receive, at your earliest convenience, an apology as abject as it is fulsome.

Sincerely,

Simon Minotaur
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« Reply #42 on: 21:30:46, 29-03-2007 »

My dear Mr Minotaur,

With respect, I must point out that your labyrinthine logic may have led you to too bullish a conclusion, if I understand your thread aright. These useless and malogrerous thoughts are best confined to dark places,cariad. Never mind, just be more discrete in future and ponder before taking a jest so seriously.

Not just beyond the pale, but white as the driven snow, thanks to Ariel...

Yrs,
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« Reply #43 on: 22:55:26, 29-03-2007 »

Talking of Minotaurs.... can anyone who knows about these things confirm that Harrison Birtwistle's The Minotaur is definitely down for 2007-2008 at the ROH?
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« Reply #44 on: 13:07:17, 30-03-2007 »

I don't know about "definitely" but I've read about a few people who seem to think they're going to be in it, e.g. Philip Langridge
 http://www.musicomh.com/classical_features/philip-langridge_0307.htm
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