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Author Topic: Ades - The Tempest  (Read 1732 times)
gingerjon
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« on: 11:47:46, 22-02-2007 »

Prompted by the ROH mailing list (a clear sign of desperation) I've booked to see Ades' The Tempest.

What should I expect from my right-at-the-back-and-to-the-side seat?
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #1 on: 12:20:36, 22-02-2007 »

If you mean what can you expect from the seat, I don't know! I'm assuming you haven't seen this opera before?

I saw about the third performance of The Tempest; it's very strange, and quite a way from Shakepeare - the libretto is DIRE. The music isn't difficult, but I came away thinking that I wasn't sure whether I liked it or not, quite an unusual feeling for me. It just didn't make much impression either way. I also felt that without the very spectacular production there might not have been all that much left. The singing at those first performances was superb all round - Ariel is NOT easy to sing, but how many people will want to do such strenuous things to the voice is another matter! Clever, but not very musical. I also felt that the play isn't really a very good subject for opera - not dramatically tense enough, and without Shakespeare's words so much of the meaning of it is lost.

Watch out for musical quotations from Sibelius and Britten, and no doubt others that I missed. I really ought to see it again to see what I think now.
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George Garnett
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« Reply #2 on: 12:47:45, 22-02-2007 »

Ariel is NOT easy to sing
I did wonder whether anyone other than Cynthia Sieden, who is doing it again this time, will actually be able to sing it, let alone want to risk it. Or maybe that is the sort of thing people like me always say and then get laughed at a century later when everyone is cheerfully doing it at Grade 4. 
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ulrica
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« Reply #3 on: 12:06:35, 09-03-2007 »

I was sad enough to have been at the ROH 'Insight evening' on The Tempest last night. Rather good actually: Ades was charming as well as intelligent and Toby Spence spoke with great insight - for a tenor  Wink
Cynthia Sieden talked about the immense difficulties of her role, and said that, having now performed it in 4 venues, she now has no difficulties with it at all, and noted with interest from a recording of the first run audible signs of difficulties that she no longer feels. Muscle memory is a wonderful thing.
I'm greatly looking forward to the revival, for which some changes have been made both to the score and to the production.
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #4 on: 13:59:48, 09-03-2007 »

I'm greatly looking forward to the revival, for which some changes have been made both to the score and to the production.

And what's the current situation as regards the collective authorship? Wink
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ulrica
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« Reply #5 on: 14:03:53, 09-03-2007 »

Well, I think it's safe to assume that Janacek won't have been written out.  Wink
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harpy128
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« Reply #6 on: 16:54:08, 12-03-2007 »

Prompted by the ROH mailing list (a clear sign of desperation) I've booked to see Ades' The Tempest.

What should I expect from my right-at-the-back-and-to-the-side seat?

I sat at one end of row N in the amphitheatre for the dress rehearsal and I think I could see most of the essentials (although naturally I can't be sure without having sat anywhere else).
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eruanto
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« Reply #7 on: 17:14:33, 12-03-2007 »

i went to orlando on march 7th and was in the back row! i was surprised how much i could see - although luck was against me because (as happens uncannily often) two rows in front was the tallest person i'd ever seen. it's all in the luck of the draw. During the interval i moved into the temporarily vacated seat next door and could see the vast majority (of the curtain Cheesy)

 
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« Reply #8 on: 23:11:48, 12-03-2007 »

i went to orlando on march 7th and was in the back row! i was surprised how much i could see - although luck was against me because (as happens uncannily often) two rows in front was the tallest person i'd ever seen. it's all in the luck of the draw. During the interval i moved into the temporarily vacated seat next door and could see the vast majority (of the curtain Cheesy)

 

I hate it when that happens. When I went to the RSC Antony and Cleopatra recently I was at the back of the stalls with a huge person sitting in front of me and I couldn't see a thing because he was wide as well as tall. I tried just to listen but I'm afraid I nodded off a few times  Undecided

Your person must have been v tall indeed because the rake in the amphitheatre usually helps. Did you enjoy Orlando apart from that? I did although I could have done with a bit less of Mars, Venus and Cupid. Not being able to see everything might have been an advantage from that point of view.
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« Reply #9 on: 23:20:37, 12-03-2007 »


And what's the current situation as regards the collective authorship? Wink

yes, remind me how many composers were harmed in the making of this opera...

 Roll Eyes
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eruanto
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« Reply #10 on: 00:32:40, 13-03-2007 »

Did you enjoy Orlando apart from that? I did although I could have done with a bit less of Mars, Venus and Cupid. Not being able to see everything might have been an advantage from that point of view.

I did indeed enjoy Orlando very much. shockingly it was the first handel opera i'd ever seen live (let alone staged). also i didn't know it in the slightest, but actually i didn't get "lost" when it came to the story. on first impressions i thought Mars seemed to spend most of the time prancing around for no apparent reason.

just one staging confuzzled me - the big blindingly-white space at the end? what was that representing?

while i'm here - any recommendations for other handel operas? giulio cesare is the most popular i hear, but i want to expand my horizons... Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: 15:28:05, 13-03-2007 »



just one staging confuzzled me - the big blindingly-white space at the end? what was that representing?


Sorry, I'm afraid I don't remember that bit! Huh Was it right at the end?

Giulio Cesare certainly is a good one and so is Rodelinda - Glyndebourne productions of both of these are available on DVD. I've enjoyed the music of all of the ones I've seen/heard although some are stronger in the plot department than others.

The London Handel Festival tends to put on more obscure ones. Last year they staged Tolomeo and soon they're doing Poro. Can't think of any other upcoming staged performances in London but there are often concert performances at the Barbican.
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« Reply #12 on: 21:05:12, 13-03-2007 »

By the way anyone who's interested in Handel operas might want to listen to "Music Matters" from last Saturday (which is available on R3 "listen again") as it's partly devoted to that topic. I have only listened to part of it so far but am finding it worthwhile.
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #13 on: 08:07:04, 14-03-2007 »

There's an interesting review by Rupert Christiansen of The Tempest in the Telegraph this morning (not a paper I read, but I look at reviews online). It has the illiterate headline "The Tempest hasn't lost it's (sic) magic", which I hope is not his fault, and is generally not complimentary. He admires the singing, but says that Cynthia Sieden as Ariel, though technically amazing, "cannot avoid sounding like Minnie Mouse".
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« Reply #14 on: 08:18:45, 14-03-2007 »

There was discussion of Temple on In tune yesterday. I thought the exerpts were interesting sound music. The singer Keenlyside thinks it is the music is of a genius. So music of Ades is genius. I have to listen to the whole thing to make up my mind. I did not hear a part that sounds like Minnie mouse.
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