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Author Topic: diy la boheme in regents park  (Read 576 times)
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« on: 11:53:00, 04-03-2007 »

I saw a small,english language production of don giovanni in regents park a few years ago and am toying with the idea of organising a la boheme in regents park one summer, I think it would be fun.

Any comments on 'diy' opera ?
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« Reply #1 on: 20:27:46, 04-03-2007 »

Birmingham Opera Company do "professional shows with non-professional performers" and have made something of sensation with their work.  The pieces are often performed in unusual venues such as disused warehouses - their "Ulysses Comes Home" (Il Ritorno di Ulisse in Patria - Monteverdi) was performed in a derelict ice-rink (and won some high praise - well, from The Guardian, 'natch).

I have seen many amateur productions. Unfortunately most of them were in professional theatres.

I support the basic idea, but can I plead with you not to try doing opera outdoors?  It is always an unmitigated disaster,  and it adds an unnecessary raft of problems to those you've already got ;-)  I happened to be in London in the summer of 2005, and took my old mum to see ANNA BOLENA performed "at the Tower Of London".  In fact it was performed on a demountable stage (the kind you might see in use at Knebworth or Glastonbury) assembled in the Moat, but this all still looked quite promising - as did a starry cast and with Alex Ingram at the helm, it looked like it might be a decent event....

  • the orchestra were located under the stage, and considering there was no acoustic in the moat anyhow, this reduced their effective involvement to the sound of a hive of angry but very distant bees
  • King Henry VIII's flag, ostentatiously raised to symbolise his all-pervasive power, was quickly blown-away by high winds
  • Police cars headed to and from Tower Hill cop-shop happily sirened past through the evening (at least 7-8 times)
  • As did BA878, LH525, AF3717, KL227, and half-a-dozen others climbing noisily above. Much lower and noisier were the smaller Dorniers arriving and leaving from London City Airport just downriver.
  • High winds blew over "The Tower Of London" during Act One
  • A large seagull landed on the stage during Anne's trial on the charge of witchcraft. The seagull walked around the downstage for a while, then strolled upstage to say hello to the Archbishop of Canterbury.  The Archbishop tried to chase it away - this was definitely the best moment of the evening.
  • Sung in Italian, English surtitles were provided above the stage. They appeared to be the surtitles of a different opera entirely, and were liberally filled with hilarious spelling-mistakes.  "I shall have they tonueg for this!" etc
  • The organisers must have discovered at the Dress Rehearsal that not a single note of what was being sung could even be heard in the front rows.  However, they had only managed to find throat-mikes for the bass, tenor and soprano - the chorus did a fine impersonation of a line of singing goldfish, but it wasn't their fault, poor lads. None of the other soloists could be heard.
  • Dead on the final chords of Act One, the rainstorm from THE BARBER OF SEVILLE was inserted - well, at least the rain was. My mum asked if I'd be very disappointed if we perhaps, went home at the interval?  And we did.
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« Reply #2 on: 20:46:48, 04-03-2007 »

PS If you're thinking of Regents Park Open-Air Theatre - I've seen G&S done there.  There is nothing behind the stage area to throw the sound forward into the auditorium, and as a result the sound disappears into thin air.  They throat-miked everyone who sang in the shows I've seen there, and this would really be the only viable way of using this unkind stage for anything musical.  Unfortunately the throat-miking merely magnified the grim vocal deficiencies of those performing.

If you're really serious about a diy opera, then give yourself a fighting chance - make use of the marvellous box-of-tricks that is a modern, pukka theatre.  It won't make your cast sing better, but you'd be surprised how much better everything will go if it's lit nicely (audiences continue to ignore lightning in stage shows, yet I would rate it more valuable than scenery - and it's already there in the theatre, and costs you 0 to utilise it),  and even if you cannot afford scenery then you can play against black backdrops and it looks ultra-fashionable (as though you actually intended this, rather than that you couldn't afford David Fielding).  Plus, you can tuck the orchestra away where they are supposed to be - in the pit.   And it need not be expensive - you could stage a fab show at the Bloomsbury Theatre, for example (or the Cochrane, or the Peacock, although Bloomsbury are the cheapest to rent... I think Golden Lane is closed now?).  Bloomsbury are lovely helpful people, you get all the facilities of a pukka theatre, and instead of freezing their nuts off in the rain in Regents Park your grateful cast will have proper dressing-rooms*, backstage tannoy relay, a Stage Management desk, and all the facilities to help your show come-over looking professional and competent :-)   And then if you get adventurous, you can have hydraulic scene-changes,  you can fly-in the Cafe Momus for Act II,  you can have Marcello's painting on the saloon exterior come down on a scrim...  it will all look most delicious :-)

PS - Buy a copy of The Art Of Coarse Acting  and make sure you never do anything mentioned within its amusing but admonitary covers :-)  It has a whole chapter on what can go wrong when performing in the open air, for example...

* at the risk of being banal, you need to provide your cast with some washbasins where they can get the make-up off, and they will need at least one loo which is "theirs" - you can't get out of costume to go and use the lavvy provided for the public Wink  Ideally you need three loos - one for use as a loo, another for the tenor to do 2 hours of vocal warm-ups in, and another for the soprano to lock herself inside and sulk.
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« Reply #3 on: 22:46:06, 04-03-2007 »

Great tips guys

Always ask folk who know eh Smiley

The don giovanni was not in the theatre area but general park, it was a small affair, very lovely, and a nice bird flew over during one aria BUT the weather was iffy during the afternoon, considering the british weather and all the other things you mention.

A proper theatre IS the way to go Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: 23:01:39, 04-03-2007 »

I'm surprised the Royal Parks gave permission, because usually they are against all kinds of public performances (except on designated bandstands and in the Open-Air-Theatre?   But good luck to the Don Giovanni team for getting permission Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: 08:54:26, 05-03-2007 »

I am starting to think it maybe too time consuming for someone with a day job Sad ... BUT... maybe some opera in english cds and a opera in english website could be the way to go, pull all those resources together eh.

job plus sidelines, oh i say, how very barber of seville !
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« Reply #6 on: 09:30:20, 05-03-2007 »

In the 3-4 weeks before the show, it would be a full-time job for at least 3-4 people, not including those actually performing Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: 10:18:53, 05-03-2007 »

yea, website, cd and perhaps a filmed production if i can get it together at some point, unless i can find a partner in london.... will put out some feelers Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: 10:27:30, 05-03-2007 »

durrrrrrrrr, of course, cd and filmed opera... Smiley

easier to organise,cut, stop if raining and can use sets, gives me longterm income stream and can advertise in the eno brochure


in english,wonder if i can talk peter moore into backing it eh Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: 23:05:10, 14-03-2007 »

You could find members of the band on ths board.........

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« Reply #10 on: 14:44:58, 15-03-2007 »

I would love to have live music but wondering about cd, after all, less hassle, having probs pinning down my director at the moment though Sad , blinkin artistic folk init

still early days at momento
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« Reply #11 on: 15:30:03, 15-03-2007 »



We always have a great time, and splendid picnic every July when Garden Opera come to perform outdoors down here in Cornwall. (Nanpusker).

They have a tiny orch in a tent beside the stage,though we haven't got wet yet!

 I think yours is a great idea Lord Byron...do it !    Kiss

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« Reply #12 on: 21:24:27, 15-03-2007 »

Janthefan, Are you back from your trip to London? Or are you writing from London? Or am I confused?
Come to tell us about your trip if you want to. I am sure many will want to know how your time in London went.
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« Reply #13 on: 07:47:11, 12-04-2007 »

This is slowly coming along, apparently i need to find an out of copyright libretto if i want to change it a bit but at least my director went to see la boheme at the eno and is very keen, turns out moulin rouge is his favourite musical.

oh yes, sooon sooon, lord byron will become the er, amateurish opera person dude
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« Reply #14 on: 17:34:56, 14-04-2007 »

Are you going to produce an amature opera Lord Byron? We used to have very good amature opera here before it turn itself into production of contemporary musicals of dubious taste.
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